Terry Norris: My Era Would Kill Both Mayweather And Pacquiao.

[Luilun]

Prime Terry, at 154, vs floyd?.. thats a damn good fight

Yea it's a good fight that ends in 6 rounds

[Luilun]

Although Norris has a point about Pac and Floyd, this guy had to retire at 31. Pacquiao and Mayweather are going strong at 33 and 35 respectively while making a **** load of money. I agree the talent pool is shallow today and that in part is why Manny and Floyd have looked so good.

You can thank HGH and roids which I think both take. Do you recall about 5 or 6 years ago Floyd was out there complaing his body is breaking down, torn rotator, brittle hands ? Dr Vegas the same guy who treated peterson Hey Floyd this HGH will cure your problems just take a vaction from boxing while I inject you with the stuff. " Okay Doc "

[tredh]

But like Bob, Floyd is not reasonable when it comes to money, that is why they are as rich as they are.

At the end of the day Pac had his chance to get 50/50 but didn't want any part of it. Since then, Floyd has made it perfectly clear Pac will NEVER get an equal share and as time goes on Floyd is making it even more clear that Bob and Pac won't have any say what so ever...

Bob is bitter because FLoyd is getting the best of them and they will have ZERO options on the matter. It's simply going to be take what Floyd offers you, or walk away (again) and take nothing. That is the hard truth. If Bob was not in the picture we wouldn't even have to discuss this as Pac would just fight.

PBF does not have the media on his side and when its all said and done and the fight doesn't happen PBF will be blamed no matter what the truth might really be. PBF doesn't have many options either they need to fight each other. To me this is not even about 50/50 its about trying to really make the damn fight. No ppv money for Manny is not going to make the fight a possibilty.

True, floyd could be more reasonable. But why should he? If the tables are turned, floyd would be asked to take what he can get, just like the ODH fight.

Floyd and his team make fights very easy when the opponent is willing to accept a fair ppv cut. There is no reason manny can't accept 30-35% of the ppv revenue to fight.

If manny wants to negotiaite hard then he shouldn't complain when floyd does same.

He should be more reasonable cause it will possibly get the fight made. Look I don't care about the 50/50 thing cause I feel that can really be worked around but the no ppv money offer is PBF not even being real with himself. Hell you mentioning the De la Hoya fight is a bad example to use. De la Hoya till this day dwarfs PBF and Manny in popularity and he gave them both part of the ppv money. So how in the hell does PBF think offering Manny a deal with no ppv is acceptable or even a starting point? Any offer to Manny under 40% of the ppv is bull*****. PBF is not that much more popular than Manny to be leaning on him with that BS offer.

Its not about eithe side negotiating hard its about each side being reasonable. That is the problem.

[WESS]

PBF does not have the media on his side and when its all said and done and the fight doesn't happen PBF will be blamed no matter what the truth might really be. PBF doesn't have many options either they need to fight each other. To me this is not even about 50/50 its about trying to really make the damn fight. No ppv money for Manny is not going to make the fight a possibilty.

And Floyd doesn't care..... that is the point. At the end of the day it will be Bob putting his ego aside and taking what he can get. Floyd has made it clear he will NEVER move away from his demand of the split now. Pac had his chance of 50/50 but walked away.

Also note that Ali was hated in his day too. Same with Tyson. Only pac fans who will fade in the wind will declare this myth that people call a "duck"... as time goes on people will actually question Pac's reluctancy to test randomly especially when it becomes the norm.

[MJ223]

Good to see hes still doing good.......

[tredh]

And Floyd doesn't care..... that is the point. At the end of the day it will be Bob putting his ego aside and taking what he can get. Floyd has made it clear he will NEVER move away from his demand of the split now. Pac had his chance of 50/50 but walked away.

Also note that Ali was hated in his day too. Same with Tyson. Only pac fans who will fade in the wind will declare this myth that people call a "duck"... as time goes on people will actually question Pac's reluctancy to test randomly especially when it becomes the norm.

PBF care you can believe that. If he really didn't care Manny's name would never come out his mouth regardless if a question was asked about Manny or not cause "next question or this interview is over" are always available as answers to Manny questions. Arum has way more money than PBF so you really think Arum will ever be in position to take what he can get from a man he has more money than? That don't even make sense to say stuff like that. I just said that I don't care about 50/50 I feel that can be worked out. So why are you still talking to me about 50/50. My point is all about the no ppv money offer to Manny. The problem is really the no ppv money offer. If you feel that the no ppv money to Manny offer is legit we have nothing else to discuss cause we will never agree on that point.

PBF is the only fighter who has the power to make Manny take a test. Whether Manny is lying or not he has stated that he is willing to take the tests. So with Manny having better public relations and reputation if this fight isn't made testing will not be the issue. If PBF sticks to that no ppv money offer that is what will be talked about for years to come as to why this fight was not made not drug testing.

[WESS]

PBF care you can believe that. If he really didn't care Manny's name would never come out his mouth regardless if a question was asked about Manny or not cause "next question or this interview is over" are always available as answers to Manny questions. Arum has way more money than PBF so you really think Arum will ever be in position to take what he can get from a man he has more money than? That don't even make sense to say stuff like that. I just said that I don't care about 50/50 I feel that can be worked out. So why are you still talking to me about 50/50. My point is all about the no ppv money offer to Manny. The problem is really the no ppv money offer. If you feel that the no ppv money to Manny offer is legit we have nothing else to discuss cause we will never agree on that point.

PBF is the only fighter who has the power to make Manny take a test. Whether Manny is lying or not he has stated that he is willing to take the tests. So with Manny having better public relations and reputation if this fight isn't made testing will not be the issue. If PBF sticks to that no ppv money offer that is what will be talked about for years to come as to why this fight was not made not drug testing.

I'm talking about the PPV split you silly goose... Mayweather WILL in fact give them an offer and Pac will again have to take it or retire. Again, I doubt Bob will want to walk away with nothing.

Floyd has made it perfectly clear no matter what anyone thinks that he is not budging from the money perspective..

I don't care what the split is, I'm telling you that Pac had the opportunity to get everything 50/50 across the table, but he walked away. He will never have that chance again. Floyd has made that perfectly clear over and over again. That is my point. You will not see this fight until

A. Bob is not Pac's promoter anymore
B. Bob and Pac put their egos aside and take what Floyd offers them

Like I said for a long time now, Bob will allow Pac to fight Floyd in his last fight because Bob will want to take something rather than nothing. They will take Floyd up on his offer but it will be Pac's last fight.

[TheGreatA]

Norris's most damaging contests were probably in the gym. Based on all I've heard, he was a notorious case of an over-trained fighter whose sparring sessions were as brutal as his fights in the ring, if not more so.

He would've definitely benefited from a cooler head and a more safety first style himself, but as it is he did rather well for himself reigning as champion for 7 years.

Fighters like Mayweather and Pacquiao likely wouldn't have moved up to fight him, much like Chavez and Whitaker didn't. The Meldrick Taylor fight shows that an under-sized fighter doesn't stand much of a chance against him unless they can hurt him and even then you had to walk through his impressive offense to do it.

[bojangles1987]

Terry Norris needs to shut his old school black and white ass up.

[tredh]

I'm talking about the PPV split you silly goose... Mayweather WILL in fact give them an offer and Pac will again have to take it or retire. Again, I doubt Bob will want to walk away with nothing.

Floyd has made it perfectly clear no matter what anyone thinks that he is not budging from the money perspective..

I don't care what the split is, I'm telling you that Pac had the opportunity to get everything 50/50 across the table, but he walked away. He will never have that chance again. Floyd has made that perfectly clear over and over again. That is my point. You will not see this fight until

A. Bob is not Pac's promoter anymore
B. Bob and Pac put their egos aside and take what Floyd offers them

Like I said for a long time now, Bob will allow Pac to fight Floyd in his last fight because Bob will want to take something rather than nothing. They will take Floyd up on his offer but it will be Pac's last fight.

You can't be talking about the ppv split cause in the last offer made PBF said his offer to Manny was a flat fee of 40Mill with no ppv money. So what ppv split are you talking about?