Rahman seeks normal split!

[badblood]

The WBC has broken their own rules longer than any organization in sports. Why stop now?

For the integerity of thier sanctioning body that's why. For the protection of the fighters that compete in their bouts. (eliminators)

[hollister]

What makes you the expert? Backing Maskaev because he won a WBC eliminator in which NEITHER of the combatants deserved to be there makes you a ****ing idiot.

Dude, who the **** really deserves a shot more than the other right now? When Brock Ko'd Ettiene, there were many who had no qualms whatsoever voicing their opinions that he should have had a title shot. What the **** had he done? He beat Ettiene who never had a chin anyway, and no legs to boot, and yet there were some who were ready to give him a shot at the belt. I will say this, Toney is a good fighter at heavy because of his defensive skills, but the fact that he does well for a soft, 5'9, 230 pound fighter isn't enough for me to declare him the savior of the division, nor should it be for anyone else. How many lame ass fights have we had to sit through that were supposed to be barnburners because of the names involved? So how can one say that a fight will suck just because Maskaev is in it? Now I am no Maskaev fan, but for us to say that he should be skipped over because some are unimpressed with him is still bull****. Maskaev, in spite of losing every time he's stepped up, has still fought far better comp at heavy than Toney has, and Toney is a steroid user that doesn't even care enough about the sport to show up in decent shape. Why should we be hanging from his nuts? Toney deserves no special treatment, period.

[Bozo_no no]

No doubt that the fight is going to happen, but it doesnt make it right, it doesnt make it fair. like I said before, if Sam would have won the fight I would be saying the same thing. If the same thing would have happened to Toney I would have said the same thing. If the WBC is going to sanction a fight as a mandatory, then stick with it no matter what. This is how you protect the integerity of your sanctioning body, by following your own rules.

Because there are FOUR different sanctioning bodies with FOUR differnt sets of corrupt rules.

Again, and for probably the 100th time, indirectly, this is the right outcome for the division as a whole.

If Maskaev would have gotten the shot, it would have been a step back in the big picture.

NONE of the sanctioning bodies rankings matter.

What matters is the top 6 Heavyweights (the title holders, Toney and Wlad) all need to fight eachother until a Champion is established.

I already told you, by your logic, the IBF will sooon have Ray Austin ranked at #1, and then we have to listen to you and guys like you tell everyone the IBF needs to follow their own rules and let Ray Austin fight for a title?

Come on man, this isn't that difficult to understand.

In the big picture, Maskaev not getting this shot is the right thing.

He doesn't deserve to be there, and it would have been a waste of time.

Drop it already.

[Bozo_no no]

For the integerity of thier sanctioning body that's why. For the protection of the fighters that compete in their bouts. (eliminators)

Again, your point shatters in before the 1st sentence is finished.

The sanctioning bodies have no integrity, and haven't for a long time. That's why making a big stink about the rules being broken in ONE of the FOUR is meaningless, and a waste of time.

[badblood]

Dude, who the **** really deserves a shot more than the other right now? When Brock Ko'd Ettiene, there were many who had no qualms whatsoever voicing their opinions that he should have had a title shot. What the **** had he done? He beat Ettiene who never had a chin anyway, and no legs to boot, and yet there were some who were ready to give him a shot at the belt. I will say this, Toney is a good fighter at heavy because of his defensive skills, but the fact that he does well for a soft, 5'9, 230 pound fighter isn't enough for me to declare him the savior of the division, nor should it be for anyone else. How many lame ass fights have we had to sit through that were supposed to be barnburners because of the names involved? So how can one say that a fight will suck just because Maskaev is in it? Now I am no Maskaev fan, but for us to say that he should be skipped over because some are unimpressed with him is still bull****. Maskaev, in spite of losing every time he's stepped up, has still fought far better comp at heavy than Toney has, and Toney is a steroid user that doesn't even care enough about the sport to show up in decent shape. Why should we be hanging from his nuts? Toney deserves no special treatment, period.

And the fact that Toney did NOTHING to get this shot is almost laughable. A NC over Ruiz and then getting banned does not land you a title shot.























































or does it?

[hollister]

The "rules" that each of the 4 sanctioning bodies impliment are the PROBLEM with boxing today.

The problem is, and has always been the sanctioning bodies' unwillingness to follow their own rules on a consistent basis.

And I already told you, I couldn't care less if he's getting screwed .

There's the motivation for your posts, you just aeren't a Maskaev fan, does anyone give a ****?

You are hanging from the nuts of a fighter that doesn't give a **** about me, you, or boxing. Just because he impresses you by fighting well for being out of shape for every fight doesn't make him a great fighter, it makes him a talented fighter that isn't even dedicated enough to boxing to show up looking like a fighter instead of a fat hairless ape. Toney deserves no special treatment, he should have to earn his shot like everyone else.

[Bozo_no no]

And the fact that Toney did NOTHING to get this shot is almost laughable. A NC over Ruiz and then getting banned does not land you a title shot.

Toney is a top 5 Heavyweight.

Maskaev is not.

The only thing that matters now is the top 6 Heavyweights fighting eachother until the titles are unified.

Toney deserves to be a part of that as does Wlad.

Maskaev does not.

Your failure to understand this is what makes you appear so ignorant.

[badblood]

Because there are FOUR different sanctioning bodies with FOUR differnt sets of corrupt rules.

Again, and for probably the 100th time, indirectly, this is the right outcome for the division as a whole.

If Maskaev would have gotten the shot, it would have been a step back in the big picture.

NONE of the sanctioning bodies rankings matter.

What matters is the top 6 Heavyweights (the title holders, Toney and Wlad) all need to fight eachother until a Champion is established.

I already told you, by your logic, the IBF will sooon have Ray Austin ranked at #1, and then we have to listen to you and guys like you tell everyone the IBF needs to follow their own rules and let Ray Austin fight for a title?

Come on man, this isn't that difficult to understand.

In the big picture, Maskaev not getting this shot is the right thing.

He doesn't deserve to be there, and it would have been a waste of time.

Drop it already.

The IBF has made Klitschko the mandatory, if Wlad goes with Brewster, do not expect the IBF to make a Byrd/Austin fight. They will make Ray fight a Sam Peter or something of the nature, Ray Austin is 8-0-2 in his last 10 fights with a SD win over Owen Beck in his last fight, his record is a steady 23-3-3, so the IBF must see something in this cat.

[Bozo_no no]

The IBF has made Klitschko the mandatory, if Wlad goes with Brewster, do not expect the IBF to make a Byrd/Austin fight. They will make Ray fight a Sam Peter or something of the nature, Ray Austin is 8-0-2 in his last 10 fights with a SD win over Owen Beck in his last fight, his record is a steady

You're missing the point.

None of what the four sanctioning bodies do or don't do within their rankings matters. It's not revelent.

For the first time in ages it's clear who the top fighters are.

They need to fight eachother, and there needs to be unification.

Allowing any one of the 4 sanctioning bodies to slip a useless fighter like Maskaev in and waste another 6th months is bad for the fans, and bad for the divsion.

[badblood]

The problem is, and has always been the sanctioning bodies' unwillingness to follow their own rules on a consistent basis.



There's the motivation for your posts, you just aeren't a Maskaev fan, does anyone give a ****?

You are hanging from the nuts of a fighter that doesn't give a **** about me, you, or boxing. Just because he impresses you by fighting well for being out of shape for every fight doesn't make him a great fighter, it makes him a talented fighter that isn't even dedicated enough to boxing to show up looking like a fighter instead of a fat hairless ape. Toney deserves no special treatment, he should have to earn his shot like everyone else.

This guy gets it.