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  • #31
    Originally posted by Own3d View Post
    I did some reading when Overeem was caught. I clearly said he should be punished for cheating, but people like Khan talking like it gave him superhuman powers are talking out of their arse.
    Overeem has been doping for years....

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    • #32
      Anyone notice similarities in the posters who supports this transparent position of arum?

      Talk about ***ing sheepple! SMDH.

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      • #33
        there is no advantage in having test levels up to normal. you guys need to do RESEARCH! TEST THEM NOW! AND IF THEY ARE OK LET THE FIGHTS GO ON. peterson / khan. berto / ortiz. along with the ruiz vs whowever i forget now. we are being duped from the fights that matter. it's about money and everyone waiting for a shot at floyd/manny. now the marquez fight is called off. come on. i call BS. alexander talked crap how he is still in training and khan claims he is 140 / 147. step in guys. the two so called cheaters move out and the remaining fighters. marquez, ortiz, khan, lara move in. give a fight as promised. malaniggi, judah, , lara all won. fill the open spots guys. give us a fight this is about the promoters giving us crap because they paid front money and step aside money already if you know promoting. which obviously you all don't. we need a fight NOW!

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        • #34
          bob arum's a scumbag.......he has had a number of fighters and trainers who've been known cheaters and this is before the steroid era......he's had high ranking members of his organization convicted of federal crimes....he has personally admitted to bribery in open court and he gets ask about cheaters????....f@#k bob arum!

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          • #35
            Originally posted by D4thincarnation View Post
            I don't think Peterson has a leg to stand on, the testosterone injections he was receiving would have giving him an advantage.

            With Berto it is a bit more complicated, with the low amount of nandrolone, it could be a contaminated test or it could be that he came off a long time ago.

            But Arum is right no point of having different testing methods from fight to fight, all of the commissions needs to up the standard of testing and the testing methods should not be set by any fighter but by the people that are independent and know what they are doing.

            Top Rank, GBP, and NSAC and NYAC need to get round the table discuss the situation and put the best and most cost effective system in place for their boxers and all fighters that fight in under those commissions.


            i actually agree with you. Petersen case is legit. If the testers say the trace amount of Nandrolone isn't high enough to suggest it was intentionally injected i believe them. No one in their right mind cheats with Nandrolone. They use Testosterone, HGH, EPO or steroids with short half lifes. Nandrolone is the PED equivalent of nuclear waste........it hangs around for like 10,000 years.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by switchsouthpaw View Post
              Arum is right. You can label every single person a cheater until all the facts come out. In the case of Berto, having trace amounts of nandrolone which I guarantee came from a tainted supplement that anyone can walk into GNC and buy now, doesn't show me or indicate that it was his "intent" to cheat. Having normal testosterone levels in athletics is important, keep in mind I'm not referring to Barry Bond levels but normal levels. Look at the supplement DAA, which raises test naturally by 50% in 12 days, it's naturally occurring and can be purchased at GNC. Not every single person is a cheater, that's ridiculous.
              that stuff is just a con bro http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...q8JDCHhkXevKsQ

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              • #37
                Originally posted by edgarg View Post
                Arum is actually not wrong, because the test result of 3.77 was within the Commission accepted level. And Montoya was wrong, because he wrote that one fighter had 3.77 when the other had a normal 1. He has no idea what the other fighter had, and a normal 1 applies to the average man not to a trained boxer, who, which already has been confirmed many times, can legally have a 4 and in most states a 6.
                Man, what the hell has happened to you recently? You've become one of the biggest Arum ****suckers on this site. He can do no wrong when it comes to you. Get a ****ing clue Edgarg. The guy is a corrupt, cheating, lying prick. The way you follow him around now and dismiss all the BS....

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by flint View Post
                  arum is laying the ground work should his boy pac get caught
                  Sad that anyone has to even reach those conclusions.

                  Originally posted by jay stills View Post
                  Funny that Arum has yet to address Alex Ariza's comments about him being the one that is holding up the Mayweather vs Pac fight.
                  ^^^^Yes. Might open up a bigger can of worms.

                  Originally posted by D4thincarnation View Post
                  Where the hell you are getting your stats from?

                  And the point is he was taking synthetic testosterone, that is the issue not his T/E

                  Are we saying it is ok to cheat if we only cheat a little?
                  You said it. And to top it off, Peterson didn't inform anyone he was raising his levels synthetically before the VADA tests were performed.

                  Have they questioned the doc who injected him/power pelleted him?

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by flint View Post
                    arum is laying the ground work should his boy pac get caught
                    Arum is not laying any grounds, he just clearly stated that it is unfair for us to prejudge the fighters so early, he just said to let the drug testers do their job and come to a clearer conclusion if there are real intent on the fighters to cheat...

                    And didn't Manny already said yes to that F****ing OSDT??!!!

                    And weren't Berto and Peterson got caught with just a PISS TEST?!!!!

                    And didn't Manny suggested in the first failed negotiation with Floyd, that he was willing to give a PISS TEST 3 times a day, 24/7, during the entire training period, up to a minute before the bell rang at fight night and one more time immediately after the fight is done!!!

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                    • #40
                      Now SCUMBAG GREEDY ASS Arum feels a contingency plan should have been in place to deal with the possibility of a boxer testing positive & was quoted saying "if companies like VADA and/or USADA are used, there should be a contingency plan between the promoter, the drug testing organization and the local commission"..Arum probably knows that way commissions are doing their testing is starting to look useless compared to VADA's & USADA's way of testing & commissions might start looking forward to that type(VADA & USADA) of testing & he knows that some of his fighters have been rumored to be taking some illegal supplements(& some have already been suspended like J.C Chavez Jr) are at risk of coming out positive..So now he's thinking of covering his ass!!That's why he criticized Mayweather so much when Mayweather insisted on this type of testing!!

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