Im sorry Old school fighters are not automatically the best

[S. Saddler 1310]

although, if one thought that Arguello was nought but an earlier incarnation of Chico Corrales, i could see why one might come to the conclusion that Floyd would unilaterally whoop him...

[studentofthegam]

although, if one thought that Arguello was nought but an earlier incarnation of Chico Corrales, i could see why one might come to the conclusion that Floyd would unilaterally whoop him...

Never thought of the two in the same sentence. He's better than Chico. He still gets that ass whooped. How do you see that fight going? Most get defensive when I say that but their comment usually ends with Floyd winning. Entertain me please.

[S. Saddler 1310]

Never thought of the two in the same sentence. He's better than Chico. He still gets that ass whooped. How do you see that fight going? Most get defensive when I say that but their comment usually ends with Floyd winning. Entertain me please.

Floyd's speed would trouble him, but Arguello was a rangy guy with a great jab, a precision eye, strong control of distance, excellent timing, a very good chin and genuine punching power, who selected his shots well and worked the body. i don't think that represents an easy night's work for even the quickest, combination-punching version of Mayweather. Floyd was a demon at SFW, but he never fought a guy like Alexis (and arguably didn't fight guys as good as Alexis fought). that's not to say he can't win, just that he's not battering a master boxer in Arguello and closing the show. i'd envision a largely strategic fight with a quick start for Mayweather but a split verdict that could go in favour of either guy at the end of it. i'm hedging, of course, but i haven't spent much time considering the matchup.

[The Tase]

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=570937

I agree larry.

[studentofthegam]

Floyd's speed would trouble him, but Arguello was a rangy guy with a great jab, a precision eye, strong control of distance, excellent timing, a very good chin and genuine punching power, who selected his shots well and worked the body. i don't think that represents an easy night's work for even the quickest, combination-punching version of Mayweather. Floyd was a demon at SFW, but he never fought a guy like Alexis (and arguably didn't fight guys as good as Alexis fought). that's not to say he can't win, just that he's not battering a master boxer in Arguello and closing the show. i'd envision a largely strategic fight with a quick start for Mayweather but a split verdict that could go in favour of either guy at the end of it. i'm hedging, of course, but i haven't spent much time considering the matchup.

Fantasy draw huh? OK. Sounds like a dance to me.

[UrDazed]

No, newer fighters like Duran, Leonard, Oscar, Whitaker, Jones Jr, Holyfield, Hopkins have snuck in to top ATG ratings.

[IronDanHamza]

Floyd's speed would trouble him, but Arguello was a rangy guy with a great jab, a precision eye, strong control of distance, excellent timing, a very good chin and genuine punching power, who selected his shots well and worked the body. i don't think that represents an easy night's work for even the quickest, combination-punching version of Mayweather. Floyd was a demon at SFW, but he never fought a guy like Alexis (and arguably didn't fight guys as good as Alexis fought). that's not to say he can't win, just that he's not battering a master boxer in Arguello and closing the show. i'd envision a largely strategic fight with a quick start for Mayweather but a split verdict that could go in favour of either guy at the end of it. i'm hedging, of course, but i haven't spent much time considering the matchup.

As technically brilliant as Arguello was, he definitely struggled with movement.

I think Mayweather would give him a lot of problems at 130.

Fernandez gave him a lot of problems with his movement who's obviously not in Mayweather's league and even Jose Luis Rameriz, who whilst had very underrated defense and boxing ability, wasn't really a boxer per se but outboxed Arguello for the majority of their fight, in which he was very unlucky to get the decision albeit I had it closer than most.

Arguello usually dealt with the boxers with slower feet for example Jim Watt, who was a good boxer and counter puncher but the ones with quick feet and movement always gave him problems.

Don't get me wrong, I don't think Mayweather dominates Arguello. His size, range, timing, skills and power would definitely give Mayweather issues but I just can't see anyway he wins a decision against him. I just can't see it.

Only two outcomes in that fight IMO are Mayweather decision or Arguello KO.

Arguello is my all time favourite fighter and the first fighter I was a true fan of and followed so I give him a shot against anyone. But Mayweather at 130 would be too much for him, IMO.

[UrDazed]

As technically brilliant as Arguello was, he definitely struggled with movement.

I think Mayweather would give him a lot of problems at 130.

Fernandez gave him a lot of problems with his movement who's obviously not in Mayweather's league and even Jose Luis Rameriz, who whilst had very underrated defense and boxing ability, wasn't really a boxer per se but outboxed Arguello for the majority of their fight, in which he was very unlucky to get the decision albeit I had it closer than most.

Arguello usually dealt with the boxers with slower feet for example Jim Watt, who was a good boxer and counter puncher but the ones with quick feet and movement always gave him problems.

Don't get me wrong, I don't think Mayweather dominates Arguello. His size, range, timing, skills and power would definitely give Mayweather issues but I just can't see anyway he wins a decision against him. I just can't see it.

Only two outcomes in that fight IMO are Mayweather decision or Arguello KO.

Arguello is my all time favourite fighter and the first fighter I was a true fan of and followed so I give him a shot against anyone. But Mayweather at 130 would be too much for him, IMO.

take a fighter like Beau Jack. Almost an anomoly at lightweight while being a top 10 at the same time.

crazy stuff with win over Montgomery, Henry armstrong, zivic, jenkins, etc.

[crold1]

suggesting that Floyd steamrolls Arguello is a touch goofy. i had to reply in kind.

He wouldn't steamroll him but he could outbox him and win. Floyd's angles would wreak havoc on Arguello's precision. I could see him winning a decisive decision but Arguello would certainly have moments.

[IronDanHamza]

no it doesn't. that argument is asinine and easily disproven.

the guy who made all these wonderful videos is still in school. kid makes more videos about fighters of past eras than he does about modern era guys.














now try to tell me young people don't correctly appreciate the past.


and again, Larry's in his 30's, the youth excuse doesn't wash for him. you're just one of these tiresome people who seeks to embolden his own sense of worth by trying to talk down to 'the kids'.

Wow, would never have guessed Reznick was a youngster.

It's true. Just because you're a younger guy doesn't mean you are less knowledgeable. Their is more than enough out there and tools to use to learn about the sport. More than in "The good old days" that's for sure.

I won't say any names but there are guys on here who are grown adults who know very little about the history of the sport. Even their lifetime. Nothing wrong with that but just supporting your point.

Barnburner who posts in the History Section is like 12 years old. No, but in all seriousness, he is about 15-16. You'd never guess.

RubenSonny who IMO is one of the better posters on here is around 17 years old. Crazy, to be honest.