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  • #71
    Originally posted by New England View Post
    cotto is left handed, lol


    his best punch is his hook, and when he's close enough the angles arent that much different from a left hand thrown short by a southpaw



    arum knows more about boxing than anybody who has ever posted in this forum
    he's not wasting his time on the technical aspects of the game in forums, but the guy knows boxing

    he would not be where he's at today if he was clueless. you should get that notion out of your head

    just because you dont get to see him put his money makers against a gauntlet of opponents one after the other to please fans doesnt mean he doesnt know boxing


    again, if you knew boxing like arum, and i mean really know boxing and how it works, you could be out there making tens of millions each year.



    bob arum has had a profound impact on boxing. perhaps as much as any other man to ever live.

    when he dies and he's no longer involved in boxing for a few years people are going to start to recognize that he's probably the best promoter to ever put on a fight card.
    Well said.

    No wonder even Floyd's dad is even telling him to avoid southpaws.

    That's another one who you can believe in. That's Floyd's own blood and an experienced veteran fighter as well.

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    • #72
      Originally posted by FirePunch View Post
      right hand left hand dont matter floyd has trouble with the southpaw stance

      I meant to say leftys as in southpaws

      Plus judah also strafed him and hurt him with a ton of left straights that had floyd shook early on
      It does matter because you don't know what you're talking about. You said that southpaws always are able to land they're left on Mayweather and that's simply untrue. Judah was able to land a few straight lefts within the 1st 5 rounds of their fight, not a ton as you claim. Either you're purposely being disingenuous to further an agenda, or you're just ignorant. Neither Judah or Corley is an example of Mayweather having trouble with southpaws. He thoroughly dominated them both.

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      • #73
        but yet he ultimately end up DOMINATING most of the Southpaws put in front of him

        when you have OVERALL BOXING SKILLS and you don't depend just physical attributes like Power and Speed, it doesn't matter who your opponent is, you will always find a way to defeat your opponent

        Mayweather is not One-Dimensional, you don't even know which Mayweather you will say, he almost fights differently in every fight, he can Pot Shot You The Entire Fight, he can stand in the middle of the ring and out-boxing you, he can fight with his back against the Rope an out-box you, he can beat you inside, he can beat you from the outside, he can even beat you mentally before the fight

        Southpaws is difficult for most Right Handed fighters to deal with though

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        • #74
          Originally posted by DTMB View Post
          lmfaaoo a washed up past prime cotto won 4-5 rounds off of floyd & judging by the way that fight went out and how easily cotto's straight left found floyd's nose, pac will find this much older, slower, less active floyd just like those other southpaws did.

          & floyd stopping pac?

          LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!

          & just because sr. doesnt train floyd doesnt mean his opinion is irrelevant. It means much more than yours and judging by how corley and judah put hands on a much younger and better floyd....

          stands to reason a southpaw 5x better than judah and corley can do a better job on a much older, slower, less active floyd.
          You do realize Floyd is past prime right??

          I mean this is a post a child would make.

          Wtf is Floyd not 5x better than Marquez?

          Goodness way to duck my post.

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          • #75
            Originally posted by Marvellous1 View Post
            Does the same theory apply to Pacquiao and good boxer/counter-punchers?
            a disciplined counter puncher who has the agression and power has a huge advantage against pacquiao
            marquez is textbook perfection of that style- he was made to be mannys kryptonite

            judah stepped off- floyd's adjustments werent as awesome as his toads like to claim- judah has a history of not having that commitment level that takes you to the greatest level

            judah's style bothers floyd alot-
            a fast lefty
            great jab
            someone who can trade with floyd

            illl tell you something else- body shots are floyds krypptonite- ive always said soften his body up for 5 or 6 rounds and floyd will look shot for the rest of the fight

            cottto did that but couldnt seal the deal in the late rounds- cotto had floyd at the brink of losing

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            • #76
              Originally posted by New England View Post
              cotto is left handed, lol


              his best punch is his hook, and when he's close enough the angles arent that much different from a left hand thrown short by a southpaw



              arum knows more about boxing than anybody who has ever posted in this forum
              he's not wasting his time on the technical aspects of the game in forums, but the guy knows boxing

              he would not be where he's at today if he was clueless. you should get that notion out of your head

              just because you dont get to see him put his money makers against a gauntlet of opponents one after the other to please fans doesnt mean he doesnt know boxing


              again, if you knew boxing like arum, and i mean really know boxing and how it works, you could be out there making tens of millions each year.



              bob arum has had a profound impact on boxing. perhaps as much as any other man to ever live.

              when he dies and he's no longer involved in boxing for a few years people are going to start to recognize that he's probably the best promoter to ever put on a fight card.
              Nobody with a brain doubts arum's knowledge of the fight game. The problem is that he is still a promoter first. So anything he says needs to be taken with a grain of salt, especially when its between his biggest cash cow and his arch rival.

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              • #77
                Originally posted by bopbopbbe View Post
                Nobody with a brain doubts arum's knowledge of the fight game. The problem is that he is still a promoter first. So anything he says needs to be taken with a grain of salt, especially when its between his biggest cash cow and his arch rival.
                Well if that's the case. When you have a problem in life. The first one you can trust and rely on is your family.

                And you know Floyd senior has told Floyd over and over stay away from south paws.

                I will believe blood more than anything.. And his dad taught him how to fight too, so you better believe it Arum has a point. And it's being exposed.

                Arum + Floyd senior = the truth, floyd ain't made for south paws.

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                • #78
                  Well duh, anybody who knows boxing, knows this.

                  Why do you think Floyd struggles with someone with a good jab?

                  Nothing to do with it being a jab, it is down to it coming from the left side.

                  If Floyd fought the two best southpaws out there now he would get beat, Floyd knows it, so those fights will not happen

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                  • #79
                    Regardless...

                    Cotto would beat Floyd in a rematch. Roy Jones Jr and others were right. Constant pressure overwhelms Floyd. Cotto's mistake was not starting the pressure right away. His game plan should just have consisted of pushing Floyd on the ropes. Nothing else. Instead, he attempted to play counterpuncher by staying in one spot. That's where FMJ is most dangerous. Cotto squandered the first rounds where he had the best chance of inflicting damage.

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                    • #80
                      Originally posted by JoeMan View Post
                      Regardless...

                      Cotto would beat Floyd in a rematch. Roy Jones Jr and others were right. Constant pressure overwhelms Floyd. Cotto's mistake was not starting the pressure right away. His game plan should just have consisted of pushing Floyd on the ropes. Nothing else. Instead, he attempted to play counterpuncher by staying in one spot. That's where FMJ is most dangerous. Cotto squandered the first rounds where he had the best chance of inflicting damage.
                      Some people are just outright delusional. We have never seen Floyd overwhelmed.

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