Comments Thread For: Andre Berto Fails VADA Test, Positive For Nandrolone

[switchsouthpaw]

People are jumping to conclusions here. Has anyone in here ever taken supplements, that you could buy in GNC or order online? If so, then you're quite familiar with how easy it is for supplements to be tainted. Again, TwinLabs had an issue. Gaspari had an issue. They purchase raws from China and sometimes the raws are tainted and end up on the shelf. It may not have been Berto's true intent to cheat. Nandrolone would be the dumbest way to do that, since it has a long shelf live.

[Mars Volta]

I love the way that certain people have turned this into a racial thing.

If one of their fighters tested positive, that would consist of 50% of their athletes.

i think you mean 100 percent lol

[BoxingGenius27]

http://www.pacquiaovsmayweather.net/...d-over-mosley/


“Floyd’s scared of my guy,” said Roach. “I let him use my gym when he was doing ‘Dancing With The Stars’ before the Ricky Hatton fight and I’ve known him since he was a little kid. He’s not a bad guy. But the only way the fight with Manny is going to happen is we go by the commission drug-testing rules.”

Roach said just like every fan, he’s looking forward to a Pacquiao-Mayweather battle. Still, he expressed doubt that it will push through “if (Mayweather) tries to bring in his own company for Olympic-style testing or any of that rubbish, the fight’s not going to happen.”

Lol what's up Gino?

I wonder why Roach would be so adamant about using the commission lol?

[Toyman]

Yeah, but those guys fail. Which is when they bring in the guys that actually know something about it.

In this case, Floyd is the one who seemed real eager to point fingers, like he had a heavy conscience.

It makes sense too. If he was so concerned about fairness, why would he cheat Marquez on the scales and brush it off by throwing money at it?

He's a liar, and a hoax. His whole career is built on lies and fighting "names" who were either too small, too old, or bums to begin with (Hatton).

I smell a rat.

yup, these recent positive tests make me VERY su****ious of floyd now

Let's take a look at the history here for a second:

Back in the 1st negotiations, floyd demands random blood+urine testing - pac says ok to urine, and to blood as well provided the NSAC has overall control of the process [this does not mean USADA wouldn't be involved] . Floyd immediately balks at this, and turns down the fight.

Comments: Pac asking for NSAC to have control turned out to be excellent foresight, as it would have set a process in place to handle a positive test, and thus avoiding what happened to GBP twice now. Furthermore, urine testing has proven its merits. Why would floyd balk? Probably because he doesnt want NSAC to be aware of his under-the-table dealings with USADA, which likely involve payment to cover up a positive test.


Later in the summer, Team Pac try once again to make the fight, but Floyd says there were no negotiations. Floyd gets exposed a few days later by Ross Greenburg.

Comments: Floyd gets horrendously exposed as once again ducking Pacquiao. At this point time, Floyd was probably well into one of his steroid cycles, and was worried that fighting Pac any time soon would trigger a positive test and wasn't willing to risk it. [Nor was he, or will he ever risk getting into the ring with Pacquiao]

Floyd goes on 1 year hiatus, with absolutely no testing, probably injecting himself with the most hi-tech steroids available and continuing his expertly crafted cycle of PED abuse.

Comments: None

Late 2011: Floyd calls out Pacquiao, only to retract his statements a few days later and say he was "just telling the fans what they wanted to hear." He later sets a May 5 date without consulting with Pacquiao which is a very noticeable duck. After seeing what Pacquiao does to JMM's face in the 3rd fight, Floyd voluntarily speeds up his trial and willingly turns himself in to have another excuse to not fight pacquiao, and also to avoid random testing.
Floyd negotiates a quick deal with Pacquiao's leftovers, Miguel Cotto, and also receives an extra 6 months to fight before serving time. After Pacquiao makes it clear he has agreed to Floyd's testing demands, Floyd's next excuse is to offer Pacquiao a 40 million flat fee- even though Pacquiao had more ppv sales in the period May 09- May 12 than Floyd had in Dec 07- May 12!!

Comments: Floyd is clearly afraid of Pacquiao and will do anything not to fight him. Floyd is also on steroids.

Concluding remarks: This is like a mystery story with a predictable end. Where there is one guy purposely trying to lead the detectives down one path and appear innocent and proactive, but all along it's only too obvious that he is guilty. Floyd's testing demands serve as both a means to make him look like a clean athlete, and at one point, was also his roadblock of choice until he had nowhere to turn.

[Marston]

I know this is how you really feel.... let it out bro, let it out...

Pac just fought Marquez. And now he's fighting Bradley.

Floyd fought Cotto thinking he'd be shot and found out the hard way he miscalculated.

[WESS]

Pac just fought Marquez. And now he's fighting Bradley.

Floyd fought Cotto thinking he'd be shot and found out the hard way he miscalculated.

What weight classes are JMM and Bradley Champions at???? You also forgot to mention that Pac fought Clottey, Margarito and Mosley instead of taking the test and fighting Floyd....

but go ahead alt, answer what weight class JMM and Bradley are champions at since you ask how long it's been since Floyd has fought a prime champion in HIS weight class.... lol go ahead alt. go ahead...

[Marston]

yup, these recent positive tests make me VERY su****ious of floyd now

Let's take a look at the history here for a second:

Back in the 1st negotiations, floyd demands random blood+urine testing - pac says ok to urine, and to blood as well provided the NSAC has overall control of the process [this does not mean USADA wouldn't be involved] . Floyd immediately balks at this, and turns down the fight.

Comments: Pac asking for NSAC to have control turned out to be excellent foresight, as it would have set a process in place to handle a positive test, and thus avoiding what happened to GBP twice now. Furthermore, urine testing has proven its merits. Why would floyd balk? Probably because he doesnt want NSAC to be aware of his under-the-table dealings with USADA, which likely involve payment to cover up a positive test.


Later in the summer, Team Pac try once again to make the fight, but Floyd says there were no negotiations. Floyd gets exposed a few days later by Ross Greenburg.

Comments: Floyd gets horrendously exposed as once again ducking Pacquiao. At this point time, Floyd was probably well into one of his steroid cycles, and was worried that fighting Pac any time soon would trigger a positive test and wasn't willing to risk it. [Nor was he, or will he ever risk getting into the ring with Pacquiao]

Floyd goes on 1 year hiatus, with absolutely no testing, probably injecting himself with the most hi-tech steroids available and continuing his expertly crafted cycle of PED abuse.

Comments: None

Late 2011: Floyd calls out Pacquiao, only to retract his statements a few days later and say he was "just telling the fans what they wanted to hear." He later sets a May 5 date without consulting with Pacquiao which is a very noticeable duck. After seeing what Pacquiao does to JMM's face in the 3rd fight, Floyd voluntarily speeds up his trial and willingly turns himself in to have another excuse to not fight pacquiao, and also to avoid random testing.
Floyd negotiates a quick deal with Pacquiao's leftovers, Miguel Cotto, and also receives an extra 6 months to fight before serving time. After Pacquiao makes it clear he has agreed to Floyd's testing demands, Floyd's next excuse is to offer Pacquiao a 40 million flat fee- even though Pacquiao had more ppv sales in the period May 09- May 12 than Floyd had in Dec 07- May 12!!

Comments: Floyd is clearly afraid of Pacquiao and will do anything not to fight him. Floyd is also on steroids.

Concluding remarks: This is like a mystery story with a predictable end. Where there is one guy purposely trying to lead the detectives down one path and appear innocent and proactive, but all along it's only too obvious that he is guilty. Floyd's testing demands serve as both a means to make him look like a clean athlete, and at one point, was also his roadblock of choice until he had nowhere to turn.

I didn't feel like making a long post, but I'm glad you did because you summed it up perfectly.

Floyd is the guy purposely misleading the authorities in different directions so that he can get away with his crimes.

There is no real reason not to make the Pac fight but he seems to make excuse after excuse to avoid it.

And after fighting Pac's leftovers a few weeks ago, I doubt he ever fights Pac now because he knows what fighting anyone near prime means to him. Maybe if Pac turns 38 and like Mosley did or if he gets ktfo by Bradley in 3 rounds, then you'll see Floydie pretend he wants the fight.

Its just like his recent support of gay marriage. It was an obvious lie, because in the 24/7 with Cotto he was mocking Cotto and the fat guy as *******uals and laughing at them.

But now he thinks gays are ok.

This guy is nothing but a liar and a hoax. His whole career since JLC is nothing but a big pile of poo.

And don't think he doesn't know it.

[Marston]

What weight classes are JMM and Bradley Champions at???? You also forgot to mention that Pac fought Clottey, Margarito and Mosley instead of taking the test and fighting Floyd....

but go ahead alt, answer what weight class JMM and Bradley are champions at since you ask how long it's been since Floyd has fought a prime champion in HIS weight class.... lol go ahead alt. go ahead...

JMM is the LW champ and interim 140 champ and Bradley is the 140 champ.

Pac is the 122, 126, 130, 135, 140, 147 and 154 champ.

What's your point?

[IMDAZED]

for exposing our young black americans, ****ing traitor!

Berto is Haitian.

[AntonTheMeh]

Berto is Haitian.

technically he's right. berto's black and haiti is in the americas.