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  • #51
    lol u came out of nowhere whats up with you

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    • #52
      Originally posted by TheHayeMaker View Post
      Great post. Great info

      I didn't know Calzaghe and Dawson

      I always thought, Calzaghe avoided Dawson after Jones because Joe wanted to retire. Which is very understandable

      I didn't know that he picked Roy instead of Dawson

      in the first place


      Joe should have picked Dawson instead, that is bullshyt

      But i GET where he's coming from. RJJ was the bigger name

      he still is, which just goes to show you how small of a marketing person Dawson is
      Dawson did call him out after the Jones fight, but I remember him wanting to fight Joe prior to that fight as well. Dawson was coming off beating Adamek in 07' and had just beaten Glen Johnson. Joe could have fought him or a Hopkins rematch in late 08' instead of Roy Jones. It just meant nothing at that point.

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      • #53
        Originally posted by jtiger777 View Post
        lol u came out of nowhere whats up with you
        I retired when Haye did.

        Haye is back

        So I'm back

        My polls are a half step up from threads like

        de la hoya butt plug

        and

        pacquaio ban from malls.
        Last edited by TheHayeMaker; 05-17-2012, 03:42 PM.

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        • #54
          Originally posted by 4Corners View Post
          Dawson did call him out after the Jones fight, but I remember him wanting to fight Joe prior to that fight as well. Dawson was coming off beating Adamek in 07' and had just beaten Glen Johnson. Joe could have fought him or a Hopkins rematch in late 08' instead of Roy Jones. It just meant nothing at that point.


          Was it possible for Calzaghe to fight Roy Jones Jr

          prior to Tarver?

          Or fight Hopkins earlier ?

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          • #55
            bradley ducking khan

            why? because he actually admited it!

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            • #56
              Originally posted by TheHayeMaker View Post
              Was it possible for Calzaghe to fight Roy Jones Jr

              prior to Tarver?

              Or fight Hopkins earlier ?
              Yes, but Joe didn't really go out of his way to make a Jones fight happen in the late 90's/early 00's. He wasn't obligated to so it's not a duck. Just like it won't be a duck if Pac and Floyd don't fight Sergio. He's still weifght classes above them, they don't have to. If they do, great. If they don't, oh well.

              I seem to remember Hopkins turning down 3 million in 2002 to fight Calzaghe, but Joe also turned down a rematch against Hopkins after their close first fight. So they both turned down fighting each other once. Even though Joe beat Bernard in a close fight, I doubt anyone should or would consider him greater than Hopkins though.

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              • #57
                Originally posted by TheHayeMaker View Post
                A duck or 'perceived' duck is two fighters who are both still in or close to their primes, yet one keep avoiding the other for whatever reasons.

                Or one fighter who just wait and wait and wait for another fighter to grow old and shot, then suddenly decides the 'fight is now'


                Now a lot of these ducks are just rumors from the general boxing fan public, so take it for what it is.


                1- Rid**** Bowe - duck Lennog Lewis

                This one is not a rumor. He blatantly was terrified of Lewis and ducked him for a decade.


                2- Joe Calzaghe rumored: ducked both Jones and HOpkins until they were old.

                I give Joe a break here, because Hopkins seem to have gotten better with age. But people still accuse Joe of this


                3- Dariuz M and Roy Jones. Most people feel that they just simply avoided and ducked each other.

                If they had fought, I believe Roy Jones would have won a wide UD. But I don't think either one wanted to take the risk.

                4- Sugar Ray Leonard ducked aron pryor. Once again this is accusations made that Sugar Ray felt Pryor was too big of a risk at the time. And not enough of a reward.

                5-Sugar Ray Leonard giving Hagler false hope when Hagler was in his prime that they were gonna fight, then 'retiring' only to come back when Hagler was old.


                6- Floyd Mayweather rumored to have avoided P Will. Magarito and Cotto prior to retirement.

                Floyd rumored to be having Pacquaio now. This is actually both camps avoiding each other. I think Floyd beats all 3 at whatever times he fight them, but he did avoided Magarito Cotto and P Will when they were near their peak. (according to a lot of boxing fans at least)

                7- Tyson paying Lennox Lewis 4 million 'step aside' money to not fight during the mid 90's .. This one is not talked about as much because Mike went broke like a proper champ and got ktfo in the early 2000's, but if he didnt duck Lewis during the mid 90's it would have changed HW history and Lewis's ATG rankings would have changed big time.
                (I myself give Tyson a break here, because he was no longer in his prime and probably knew Lewis was gonna ktfo him)

                8- Tyson avoiding 'old fat comeback George'

                Now Tyson probably punch holes through this version, or he get moorrered nobody will know. We do know one thing, fat big comeback George would have fought Tyson anywhere any place.


                9-JOE CALZAGHE AND SVEN OTTKE

                How these two amazing warriors of the thousand punches per rounds did not fight each other in what could have been the most magnificent trilogy of all times I DO NOT KNOW.. Somebody's 0 coulda go

                you mean all of the boxing experts on NSB...

                anyways, i voted for Bowe.

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                • #58
                  On this list its easily Bowe ducking Lewis.

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                  • #59
                    First off, Roy didnt avoid DM. Period.

                    On topic: Floyd ducking Pacquiao is the biggest duck ever because this is the biggest fight ever that will not happen.

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by Mr. Invincible View Post
                      First off, Roy didnt avoid DM. Period.

                      On topic: Floyd ducking Pacquiao is the biggest duck ever because this is the biggest fight ever that will not happen.
                      yes, this. despite the fact that Ariza - who's in Pac's team - puts the blame SOLELY on Arum.....

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