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  • Mr. Fantastic
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    #101
    Originally posted by larryx2013
    The Margo offer came before the Baldo fight and Floyd told Arum he would figth Margo but wanted a 10 million per fight guarantee on his next 3 fights Arum declined.Floyd left read



    “We are not turning down Margarito. I want to make that crystal clear. When and if he is the best available option for Floyd’s next fight, that’s the direction he will move in.” If you noticed, that was Ellerbe speaking. Not Floyd. Let’s move on.

    Bob Arum, Mayweather’s promoter at the time said that Mayweather preferred to await the outcome of the May 6 Oscar De La Hoya-Ricardo Mayorga fight instead of committing to Margarito because he would prefer to fight De La Hoya.

    Arum stated that Mayweather would have fought Margarito for the 8 million, but he wanted a guaranteed 10 million to fight Miguel Cotto and Ricky Hatton. Arum only guaranteed him 7 million. And for those who don’t know Cotto and Hatton were at the Mayweather-Gatti fight and Cotto was ranked number 5 by the ring at the time (Proof: Listen to the commentary Jim Lampley at the end of round 5) . Cotto had just moved up to the 140 pound weight class and he didn’t make an offer to fight Mayweather after the Gatti fight.

    Arum said Mayweather also asked for $20 million to fight De La Hoya, a fight Arum said he wasn’t interested in participating in. “That’s not in the cards,” Arum said. “He wants $20 million for the De La Hoya fight? It’s not there. Sometimes, my man, you gotta know when to hold ‘em and when to fold ‘em. We’ll talk about things down the road.” Notice this part Arum was talking.

    http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...YgkNFWZWcZGFZg
    Margarito called him out before Judah. I mean you call out Floyd it's his duty to respond right? Considering Margarito went up to his face. Funny how he only did it to Marquez who had to move up 2 divisions.

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    • Larry the boss
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      #102
      Originally posted by Mr. Fantastic
      Margarito called him out before Judah. I mean you call out Floyd it's his duty to respond right? Considering Margarito went up to his face. Funny how he only did it to Marquez who had to move up 2 divisions.
      read the article man all the facts are there.Hell even Arum tells you why the fight didnt happen


      Arum stated that Mayweather would have fought Margarito for the 8 million, but he wanted a guaranteed 10 million to fight Miguel Cotto and Ricky Hatton. Arum only guaranteed him 7 million. And for those who don’t know Cotto and Hatton were at the Mayweather-Gatti fight and Cotto was ranked number 5 by the ring at the time (Proof: Listen to the commentary Jim Lampley at the end of round 5) . Cotto had just moved up to the 140 pound weight class and he didn’t make an offer to fight Mayweather after the Gatti fight.

      Arum said Mayweather also asked for $20 million to fight De La Hoya, a fight Arum said he wasn’t interested in participating in. “That’s not in the cards,” Arum said. “He wants $20 million for the De La Hoya fight? It’s not there. Sometimes, my man, you gotta know when to hold ‘em and when to fold ‘em. We’ll talk about things down the road.” Notice this part Arum was talking.

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      • TheHayeMaker
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        #103
        Originally posted by jreckoning
        Sugar Ray Leonard ducked Aaron Pryor to take easy fights with Thomas Hearns, Marvin Hagler, and a host of others. LOL.


        This is a pretty good list of perceived ducks though some shouldn't even be on here.
        Ty.

        Ya Like I said, none of this is my opinions, it's just the 'perceived' ducks amongst casual fans that I felt was interesting.

        Like it nor not, every single thing on this list.. was considered or is considered a 'duck' by a signficant portion. Obviously people who think that about Leonard is probably wrong as I was wrong after doing further research. But the opinions are def out there.


        I hold firm to the believe that Tyson did duck Old fat comeback Foreman though...

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          #104
          Originally posted by Capaedia
          While it's obvious you're just making yet another thread to go up on your soapbox about Lennox Lewis, but...



          They were never at the same weight.

          Leonard offered him a career high pay-day of 250 grand for a fight, which was turned down. Aaron declined it.

          Leonard fought Duran before and after the window of opportunity for the fight with Pryor. Duran is a much better fighter than Pryor who employed similar tactics. He also fought Benitez and Hearns within a few years. Also much better than Pryor. Why the hell would he duck Pryor, and then fight (or continue to fight) them?


          Ya- I obviously should never had put Floyd as a list of options so Lewis-Bowe get like 95% of the votes. That was a mistake on my part .. **
          Forgot for a moment this site don't really focus on heavyweight stuff compare to the lighter weights...



          As to the Pryor Leonard thing i 100% aGREE WITH YOU.

          But sadly, a lot of people do not.


          Just reading 'comments' from the Sugar Ray Leonard articles when he was talking **** about Floyd ducking Pacquaio show that a good amount of people really do feel Leonard ducked Pryor and he waited till hagler got old.


          This misconception is obviously fueled in part by HBO and the mythes they create. But Leonard definitely belong on any list of 'perceived ducks'

          I mean other then Lewis Bowe.. You can make excuses for every body on this list...

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            #105
            People still believe those ****** Legendary Nights Myths?

            Anyway, Bowe-Lewis gets my vote.

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              #106
              Originally posted by Capaedia
              While it's obvious you're just making yet another thread to go up on your soapbox about Lennox Lewis, but...



              They were never at the same weight.

              Leonard offered him a career high pay-day of 250 grand for a fight, which was turned down. Aaron declined it.

              Leonard fought Duran before and after the window of opportunity for the fight with Pryor. Duran is a much better fighter than Pryor who employed similar tactics. He also fought Benitez and Hearns within a few years. Also much better than Pryor. Why the hell would he duck Pryor, and then fight (or continue to fight) them?
              $500k actually.

              Originally posted by larryx2013
              and Leonard never ducked Pryor Pryor fought at 140.how did Leonard duck him?
              Because Legendary Nights said so.

              And challenging someone verbally in a press conference means more than, you know, actually offering a contract for a career high payday.

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                #107
                Originally posted by PED User
                People still believe those ****** Legendary Nights Myths?

                Anyway, Bowe-Lewis gets my vote.
                I think Floyd NOT fighting Margarito was one of the smartest decisions he's ever made considering that Margarito was caught trying to bring illegally loaded gloves into the ring. The Margarito fight probably took years off of Cotto's career and he hasn't really liked like the same Miguel since that first fight. Why would Floyd fight a guy who isn't very well known in he states and has mediocre record? Fighting Margarito would have done nothing for Floyd's career.

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                  #108
                  Originally posted by PED User
                  $500k actually.



                  Because Legendary Nights said so.

                  And challenging someone verbally in a press conference means more than, you know, actually offering a contract for a career high payday.

                  Yup. I said the same earlier in the thread.

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                  • yoz
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                    #109
                    Bowe-Lewis

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                    • Mister Wolf
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                      #110
                      Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
                      Khan got jobbed against a drugs cheat whilst Bradley fought Casamayor instead of him.
                      Here you go again. look man Bradley fought a tune up to get ready for his fight with pac. why can't u understand this dirk. say what u want but u know arum signed bradley to top rank so he could fight pac everyone knows this.

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