Comments Thread For: Schaefer on Mayweather's Options, a Pacquiao Deal, Arum

[HazeAnatomy]

Ok...Floyd just Made around 65 Million After Purse+PPV from the Cotto Fight. Manny will Make Somewhere between 15-25 Million from the bradley Fight. That itself Should Answer the Question of Who gets the Lios Share. Its Common Sense and easy Math...

[Pretty Boy Greg]

You would have have to be an idiot to think Oscar was not the main reason that fight did the numbers it did do.

Oscar was the ultimate cash cow, ever fight he fought in pretty much did the numbers they did because of him

if floyd was reason then his fight would have done more than 900-950k buys vs hatton

as you can find out yourself

Floyd vs Hatton 950k
Floyd vs Marquez 1.05m
Floyd vs mosley 1.4m
Floyd vs ortiz 1.25m
Floyd vs cotto 1.5m (thanks to cannelo vs mosley as well)

Pac vs Hatton 800k
Pac vs cotto 1.25
Pac vs clottey 750k
Pac vs Margo 1.15m
Pac vs Mosley 1.3m
Pac vs marquez 1.41m

use your own head to work out what is fair
Pa

first off the marquez and mosley numbers are not official from showtime and HBO. those numbers came from the garbage spewed out of Arums mouth... Im sick of you pacfarts stating those #'s, THEY WERE NEVER OFFICIALLY RELEASED!. And the only reason fat dan from espn said what the numbers were is because Arum told him... lets see official #'s and then we can talk...

[Liquid Nil]

I would love to see Mayweather Williams, It can be made because Williams is not with Top rank!

[The Big Dunn]

The bias on this site is rather interesting. SChaeffer says run the numbers and split the money that way. But that's not fair.

What you guys say is fair is floyd, as a promoter, should take less than what he is worth as a fighter to make this fight happen. The other thing people say is fair is to split the money 45/45 and give 10 to the winner. Cool, except manny still isn't woth 45%
Yet this is fair.

Why does everyone want floyd to take less than he is worth?

Why doesn't anyone want the numbers run? And why do we have to cut out the floyd/odh fight in the calculations? It seems people are afraid that running the numbers shows how far ahead of manny floyd truly is.

Just run the numbers.

[Furn]

Ok...Floyd just Made around 65 Million After Purse+PPV from the Cotto Fight. Manny will Make Somewhere between 15-25 Million from the bradley Fight. That itself Should Answer the Question of Who gets the Lios Share. Its Common Sense and easy Math...

The saddest part is that you actually believe that.

[Furn]

The bias on this site is rather interesting. SChaeffer says run the numbers and split the money that way. But that's not fair.

What you guys say is fair is floyd, as a promoter, should take less than what he is worth as a fighter to make this fight happen. The other thing people say is fair is to split the money 45/45 and give 10 to the winner. Cool, except manny still isn't woth 45%
Yet this is fair.

Why does everyone want floyd to take less than he is worth?

Why doesn't anyone want the numbers run? And why do we have to cut out the floyd/odh fight in the calculations? It seems people are afraid that running the numbers shows how far ahead of manny floyd truly is.

Just run the numbers.

Bloomberg businessweek ran the numbers and PAC came out on top the last 2 years, anything older than that is meaningless to a fighters worth now.

[jayblack]

Exactly, Arum will pick that apart a possible 17 mill -40% for taxes= about 9million-27% for Arum=around 6.5 million -10% konz= about 6 mill-1mill for roach=5mill-1mil for Ariza=4 mill Pacquiao is going to take home 4- 5 million i mean forreal why does this dude turn down 40 million to keep making 4 and 5million and letting Arum rip him off. Arum and Pac don't want the fight now schaeffer has come up with the most fair solution let the accounting firm determine who gets more when they compare the numbers what excuse do they have there is no valid excuse for them i don't want to hear no excuse from Arum at all.

You forgot one more entity that will be taking a piece of the pie. Golden Boy Promotions... If you recall he signed on to GPB prior to signing with top rank, and while top rank is his primary pormoting company GBP still gets paid everytime Pac fights.

[Treaxey]

Pay Per View

Once again, if u run the #'s, you'll see Pac has generated more! If anything Pac is being generous by demanding a 50/50 split or better yet 45/45 with the winner getting 55.
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2009
1.Pacquiao-Cotto...............1.25M PPV ($70M).......($8.85M gate -crowd:15,930)
2.Mayweather-Marquez.......1.05M PPV ($52M).......($6.81M gate -crowd:13,116)
3.Pacquiao-Hatton..............850K PPV ($45M)........($8.83M gate -crowd:16,262)

2010
1.Mayweather-Mosley.........1.4M PPV ($78.3M)......($11.03M gate -crowd:15,117)
2.Pacquiao-Margarito..........1.15M PPV ($64M).......($5.4M gate -crowd:40,154)
3.Pacquiao-Clottey.............700K PPV ($35.3M)......($6.36M gate -crowd:41,843)

2011
1.Pacquiao-Marquez............1.41M PPV ($77.6M*)....($11.65M gate -crowd:16,389)
2.Mayweather-Ortiz............1.25M PPV ($78.4M)......($9M gate -crowd:14,687)
3.Pacquiao-Mosley..............1.1M~ PPV ($66M)........($8.88M gate -crowd:16,412)

*1.41M PPV x $54.95...PPV gross will be more taking into account HD buys at $64.95
~some reports have Pac-Mosley doing 1.3M PPV buys, including on the Ring website & Wikipedia


Crowds

2011
Pacquiao v Mosley.............16,412 (MGM Grand, Las Vegas)
Pacquiao v Marquez...........16,389 (MGM Grand, Las Vegas)
Mayweather v Ortiz............14,687 (MGM Grand, Las Vegas)

2010
Pacquiao v Clottey.............41,843 (Cowboys Stadium, Texas)
Pacquiao v Margarito..........40,154 (Cowboys Stadium, Texas)
Mayweather v Mosley.........15,117 (MGM Grand, Las Vegas)

2009
Pacquiao v Hatton.............16,262 (MGM Grand, Las Vegas)
Pacquiao v Cotto...............15,930 (MGM Grand, Las Vegas)
Mayweather v Marquez.......13,116 (MGM Grand, Las Vegas)







Highest Paid Athlete from FORBES:

In 2011: Pacquiao is No. 25..... Mayweather out from Top 50.
In 2010: Pacquiao is No. 24..... Mayweather out as he didn't have a fight.
http://www.batangastoday.com/50-high...-forbes/13878/

OSCAR DE LA HOYA HIGHEST GUARANTEE WAS $33M...

Is Mayweather going to get a Guarantee of $50M by fighting opponent not Named Manny Pacquiao???? Certainly NOT... Not even $40M

You guys get the picture. it really is a 50/50 fight.

I'm not sure if you're serious or trolling, either way I feel sorry for you...I really do.

[The Big Dunn]

Bloomberg businessweek ran the numbers and PAC came out on top the last 2 years, anything older than that is meaningless to a fighters worth now.

Just like I said, people feel the need to only go with 2 or 3 years. Stop the madness. STop trying to make floyd worth less then he is. Just run all the numbers. Thats whats fair.

[jayblack]

The bias on this site is rather interesting. SChaeffer says run the numbers and split the money that way. But that's not fair.

What you guys say is fair is floyd, as a promoter, should take less than what he is worth as a fighter to make this fight happen. The other thing people say is fair is to split the money 45/45 and give 10 to the winner. Cool, except manny still isn't woth 45%
Yet this is fair.

Why does everyone want floyd to take less than he is worth?

Why doesn't anyone want the numbers run? And why do we have to cut out the floyd/odh fight in the calculations? It seems people are afraid that running the numbers shows how far ahead of manny floyd truly is.

Just run the numbers.

Here are the number from 2007 - present
Floyd:
2.45; 920k; 1.1; 1.4; 1.25; 1.5; totalling 8,620,000

Pac:
400k; 250k; 1.25; 850k; 700k; 1.15; 1.3; 1.4; 1.25; totalling 8,550,000

Floyd avg per fight: 1,436,000
Pac avg per fight: 950k

Based on these numbers Floyd deserves a 60-40 split
Fo those who disagree that Floyd is the bigger draw, you should look at the master threads in NSB. Mayweather vs Cotto 297,910 views
Mayweather vs Pac 121,396 views
Pac vs Bradley 29,552 views
Men Lie, women lie, numbers don't.