Comments Thread For: Schaefer on Mayweather's Options, a Pacquiao Deal, Arum

[ADP02]

Of course Floyd's 40 million dollar flat rate offer is ridiculous. His stance on that subject has changed, as well. I specifically remember him saying that he offered Manny 40 million "and we didn't even get into the ppv side", then he said "40 million is what your getting, take it or leave it", and now apparently he's looking for a 60/40 split. I'm not really sure what his actual stance is. What I do know is that his stance on the split has changed ever since Manny came out and said he'd take less money to fight Mayweather. I personally believe that Floyd is positioning himself to make a little more than Pacquiao if they ever do negotiate. Either way this whole back and forth between the two camps is tiring.

To your second point - If Manny would have agreed to the original 14 day cut off offer that Mayweather asked for then the fight would have already happened. Everything was agreed to in the original negotiations except for drug testing.

You never know because Floyd had initially started this back in 2009 by saying he should get more money than Manny .... using the same reasoning as now. The thing is that the drug testing roadblock happened so Floyd never needed to bring the revenue split anymore .... once Manny agreed to testing, Floyd moved on to this new roadblock.

[spoonwars]

Pay Per View

Once again, if u run the #'s, you'll see Pac has generated more! If anything Pac is being generous by demanding a 50/50 split or better yet 45/45 with the winner getting 55.
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2009
1.Pacquiao-Cotto...............1.25M PPV ($70M).......($8.85M gate -crowd:15,930)
2.Mayweather-Marquez.......1.05M PPV ($52M).......($6.81M gate -crowd:13,116)
3.Pacquiao-Hatton..............850K PPV ($45M)........($8.83M gate -crowd:16,262)

2010
1.Mayweather-Mosley.........1.4M PPV ($78.3M)......($11.03M gate -crowd:15,117)
2.Pacquiao-Margarito..........1.15M PPV ($64M).......($5.4M gate -crowd:40,154)
3.Pacquiao-Clottey.............700K PPV ($35.3M)......($6.36M gate -crowd:41,843)

2011
1.Pacquiao-Marquez............1.41M PPV ($77.6M*)....($11.65M gate -crowd:16,389)
2.Mayweather-Ortiz............1.25M PPV ($78.4M)......($9M gate -crowd:14,687)
3.Pacquiao-Mosley..............1.1M~ PPV ($66M)........($8.88M gate -crowd:16,412)

*1.41M PPV x $54.95...PPV gross will be more taking into account HD buys at $64.95
~some reports have Pac-Mosley doing 1.3M PPV buys, including on the Ring website & Wikipedia


Crowds

2011
Pacquiao v Mosley.............16,412 (MGM Grand, Las Vegas)
Pacquiao v Marquez...........16,389 (MGM Grand, Las Vegas)
Mayweather v Ortiz............14,687 (MGM Grand, Las Vegas)

2010
Pacquiao v Clottey.............41,843 (Cowboys Stadium, Texas)
Pacquiao v Margarito..........40,154 (Cowboys Stadium, Texas)
Mayweather v Mosley.........15,117 (MGM Grand, Las Vegas)

2009
Pacquiao v Hatton.............16,262 (MGM Grand, Las Vegas)
Pacquiao v Cotto...............15,930 (MGM Grand, Las Vegas)
Mayweather v Marquez.......13,116 (MGM Grand, Las Vegas)







Highest Paid Athlete from FORBES:

In 2011: Pacquiao is No. 25..... Mayweather out from Top 50.
In 2010: Pacquiao is No. 24..... Mayweather out as he didn't have a fight.
http://www.batangastoday.com/50-high...-forbes/13878/

OSCAR DE LA HOYA HIGHEST GUARANTEE WAS $33M...

Is Mayweather going to get a Guarantee of $50M by fighting opponent not Named Manny Pacquiao???? Certainly NOT... Not even $40M

You guys get the picture. it really is a 50/50 fight.

Pacquiao outnumbering Mayweather at PPV and gate. No doubt.

[sicko]

I think it will be Guerrero if he beats Aydin and looks impressive, which me personally is ok with, I want to see Mayweather against another SKILLED BOXER and a smart fighter

While I think Mayweather would ultimately win...I think Guerrero would give him a damn good fight

[Furn]

LOL. You do know that Pacquaio also fought De La Hoya and PPV sales only made half of what Mayweather/De La Hoya made right!?!?!

That was 5 years ago what does it have to do with a fighters draw now?

PAC used to fight for $25 lets count that too?

Anything over a 2-3 years is meaningless.

[Mastermind24]

the 40 million number keeps getting thrown around as if Floyd is cutting Pac off the PPV money.


the 40 million comes from the PPV money. That is where Floyd pays all his opponents. Schaeffer broke this down in a NY Times article around the time of the Ortiz/PBF fight in September.

[tlarry]

Schaefer: Get Over Who's PPV Is Larger; That's An Excuse Not To Fight!

If you're guy is the man, and you're not afraid of losing to Manny Pacquiao, then you take Pacquiao's counter offer: 45%/45% Split, AND the WINNER gets the additional 10%.... The math then is 55% to the WINNER, 45% to the LOSER. All this other BS about who's pay per view numbers are the largest, is all a smoke screen. Pacquiao is willing to risk taking 45% if he loses and allow Floyd 55% if he beats Pacquiao, but ****** Floyd isn't willing to take the same risk. Why is that? Because he doesn't think he can beat a prime Pacquiao. This isn't a "business decision"! If it is Floyd, then tell us how good a business decision it is for you to get paid ZERO for not allowing the fight to happen, versus getting $75m if you WIN and $50m if you lose???? Isn't $50m better than ZERO at the very least??? And if you win, you get $75m. You'd rather get ZERO, because your ego is so skewed over who's PPV numbers are bigger??!! Mayweather, you're an idiot; your whole Klan is.

[Mastermind24]

If you're guy is the man, and you're not afraid of losing to Manny Pacquiao, then you take Pacquiao's counter offer: 45%/45% Split, AND the WINNER gets the additional 10%.... The math then is 55% to the WINNER, 45% to the LOSER. All this other BS about who's pay per view numbers are the largest, is all a smoke screen. Pacquiao is willing to risk taking 45% if he loses and allow Floyd 55% if he beats Pacquiao, but ****** Floyd isn't willing to take the same risk. Why is that? Because he doesn't think he can beat a prime Pacquiao. This isn't a "business decision"! If it is Floyd, then tell us how good a business decision it is for you to get paid ZERO for not allowing the fight to happen, versus getting $75m if you WIN and $50m if you lose???? Isn't $50m better than ZERO at the very least??? And if you win, you get $75m. You'd rather get ZERO, because your ego is so skewed over who's PPV numbers are bigger??!! Mayweather, you're an idiot; your whole Klan is.

no prize fighter will accept this

you think Manny would accept this in a fight vs. Bradley? Hell nah, you ned to chill .

[Rolaz]

Go for that 45-45 equal split and the WINNER getting the remaining 10!
Give Boxing Fans a FAIR SHAKE!

[maguirre]

If you're guy is the man, and you're not afraid of losing to Manny Pacquiao, then you take Pacquiao's counter offer: 45%/45% Split, AND the WINNER gets the additional 10%.... The math then is 55% to the WINNER, 45% to the LOSER. All this other BS about who's pay per view numbers are the largest, is all a smoke screen. Pacquiao is willing to risk taking 45% if he loses and allow Floyd 55% if he beats Pacquiao, but ****** Floyd isn't willing to take the same risk. Why is that? Because he doesn't think he can beat a prime Pacquiao. This isn't a "business decision"! If it is Floyd, then tell us how good a business decision it is for you to get paid ZERO for not allowing the fight to happen, versus getting $75m if you WIN and $50m if you lose???? Isn't $50m better than ZERO at the very least??? And if you win, you get $75m. You'd rather get ZERO, because your ego is so skewed over who's PPV numbers are bigger??!! Mayweather, you're an idiot; your whole Klan is.

Naa. Mayweather is not motivated enough to prove he's the best. He needs $100+ million worth of motivation to fight the one-dimensional midget, win or lose. We're not even sure if he'll fight the Pacman at any cost. He looks like he's scared.

[EL_cano]

^^^ scared enough that when PAC ktfo Timmy, Floyd will go out hiding like a pube stuck inside a females puussy.