Comments Thread For: Schaefer on Mayweather's Options, a Pacquiao Deal, Arum

[cliccmade]

Do your homework!

Mayweather has out sold Pacman on every common opponent.

Numbers don't lie, people do!

[maguirre]

Pacman/JMM3 did far better than FMJ/JMM.

Numbers don't lie, indeed, people do.

[M4RK]

Ok...Floyd just Made around 65 Million After Purse+PPV from the Cotto Fight. Manny will Make Somewhere between 15-25 Million from the bradley Fight. That itself Should Answer the Question of Who gets the Lios Share. Its Common Sense and easy Math...

Haha lol i think you should sit the next one out buddy, save urself the embarrassment.

[RuMbLe]

Do your homework!

Mayweather has out sold Pacman on every common opponent.

Numbers don't lie, people do!

Hatton vs
FM 920K ($47M, $10.39M gate)
MP 850K ($45M, $8.83M gate)

Cotto vs
FM 1.5M ($94M, $12M gate)
MP 1.25M ($70M, $8.85M gate)

Marquez vs
FM 1.05M ($52M, $6.81M gate)
MP 1.45M ($78M, $11.65M gate)

Mosley vs
FM 1.4M ($78.3M, $11.03M gate)
MP 1.35M ($76M, $8.88M gate)

*DLH fight doesn't count as they were both clear B-sides, which is not relevant to today, and FM was a slight favorite vs DLH whereas DLH-MP was seen as total mismatch and cherry-pick for DLH.


Not much difference at all, and Pacquaio actually got more buys and averaged more when you add the numbers up as A-sides vs common opponents.

In the revenue those fights generated it's a $311M to $307M edge to Floyd, pumped up by the recent Mayweather-Cotto numbers (on a card that co-featured Canelo-Mosley).

Also have to consider Pacquiao outsold Floyd in 2 of the last 3 years, his fights generating more money in those years (If Floyd wins this year they will split the last four years 2-2 as PPV King), and Pacquiao had more people buy his PPVs and more that paid at the gate to watch him live.

This fight is as clear a 50-50 as you will get. Mayweather can't do 3M buys without Pacquiao, Pacquiao can't do 3M buys without Floyd. They will share equal responsibility for the fight breaking records. If Floyd can give Cotto a 65-35 share in the PPV and fight revenue, he can give Pacquiao 50-50.

Offering 0% of the PPV and fight revenue in a fight expected to break PPV and fight revenue records says he doesn't want the fight or is looking to surpass Ronnie Biggs for the greatest heist of all-time. Either way there is 0% chance the fight happens with Mayweather offering 0% of the PPV and fight revenue. He needs to negotiate Pacquiao's gauranteed purse, which Pacquiao has said he'd have no problem taking less than Floyd's gaurantee, and do the right thing with 50-50 on the PPV and fight revenue.

[AFighter4U]

long story short, manny offered to take the smaller share with 45% going to him and 55% going to floyd.... IF floyd wins, in other words the winner gets the bigger purse.


Interestingly enough, Floyd who is a gambler isn't interested in betting on himself and REFUSED MANNY'S OFFER.

[AFighter4U]

Hatton vs
FM 920K ($47M, $10.39M gate)
MP 850K ($45M, $8.83M gate)

Cotto vs
FM 1.5M ($94M, $12M gate)
MP 1.25M ($70M, $8.85M gate)

Marquez vs
FM 1.05M ($52M, $6.81M gate)
MP 1.45M ($78M, $11.65M gate)

Mosley vs
FM 1.4M ($78.3M, $11.03M gate)
MP 1.35M ($76M, $8.88M gate)

*DLH fight doesn't count as they were both clear B-sides, which is not relevant to today, and FM was a slight favorite vs DLH whereas DLH-MP was seen as total mismatch and cherry-pick for DLH.


Not much difference at all, and Pacquaio actually got more buys and averaged more when you add the numbers up as A-sides vs common opponents.

In the revenue those fights generated it's a $311M to $307M edge to Floyd, pumped up by the recent Mayweather-Cotto numbers (on a card that co-featured Canelo-Mosley).

Also have to consider Pacquiao outsold Floyd in 2 of the last 3 years, his fights generating more money in those years (If Floyd wins this year they will split the last four years 2-2 as PPV King), and Pacquiao had more people buy his PPVs and more that paid at the gate to watch him live.

This fight is as clear a 50-50 as you will get. Mayweather can't do 3M buys without Pacquiao, Pacquiao can't do 3M buys without Floyd. They will share equal responsibility for the fight breaking records. If Floyd can give Cotto a 65-35 share in the PPV and fight revenue, he can give Pacquiao 50-50.

Offering 0% of the PPV and fight revenue in a fight expected to break PPV and fight revenue records says he doesn't want the fight or is looking to surpass Ronnie Biggs for the greatest heist of all-time. Either way there is 0% chance the fight happens with Mayweather offering 0% of the PPV and fight revenue. He needs to negotiate Pacquiao's gauranteed purse, which Pacquiao has said he'd have no problem taking less than Floyd's gaurantee, and do the right thing with 50-50 on the PPV and fight revenue.

that's quite an interesting point you have there.

[schizopolis23]

Hatton vs
FM 920K ($47M, $10.39M gate)
MP 850K ($45M, $8.83M gate)

Cotto vs
FM 1.5M ($94M, $12M gate)
MP 1.25M ($70M, $8.85M gate)

Marquez vs
FM 1.05M ($52M, $6.81M gate)
MP 1.45M ($78M, $11.65M gate)

Mosley vs
FM 1.4M ($78.3M, $11.03M gate)
MP 1.35M ($76M, $8.88M gate)

*DLH fight doesn't count as they were both clear B-sides, which is not relevant to today, and FM was a slight favorite vs DLH whereas DLH-MP was seen as total mismatch and cherry-pick for DLH.


Not much difference at all, and Pacquaio actually got more buys and averaged more when you add the numbers up as A-sides vs common opponents.

In the revenue those fights generated it's a $311M to $307M edge to Floyd, pumped up by the recent Mayweather-Cotto numbers (on a card that co-featured Canelo-Mosley).

Also have to consider Pacquiao outsold Floyd in 2 of the last 3 years, his fights generating more money in those years (If Floyd wins this year they will split the last four years 2-2 as PPV King), and Pacquiao had more people buy his PPVs and more that paid at the gate to watch him live.

This fight is as clear a 50-50 as you will get. Mayweather can't do 3M buys without Pacquiao, Pacquiao can't do 3M buys without Floyd. They will share equal responsibility for the fight breaking records. If Floyd can give Cotto a 65-35 share in the PPV and fight revenue, he can give Pacquiao 50-50.

Offering 0% of the PPV and fight revenue in a fight expected to break PPV and fight revenue records says he doesn't want the fight or is looking to surpass Ronnie Biggs for the greatest heist of all-time. Either way there is 0% chance the fight happens with Mayweather offering 0% of the PPV and fight revenue. He needs to negotiate Pacquiao's gauranteed purse, which Pacquiao has said he'd have no problem taking less than Floyd's gaurantee, and do the right thing with 50-50 on the PPV and fight revenue.

Fair assessment. Good luck with Floyd nuthuggers trying to understand facts.

[j.razor]

When Pacqiao was offered 50/50, he refused a 14-day cutoff on testing.

i dont think it was a 50/50 split....i think Floyd was gon git a lil more and yeah manny wanted a 24 day cut-off...wut a lil punk, if it wasnt for that we would been seen manny git that ass whooped.

[j.razor]

There we go folks, all that is preventing the fight is the monetary split. Drug testing is no longer an issue according to Schaefer. Since this is the case, they should make it a true prize fight if they can't agree on a 50-50 split, 45-45 with the other 10 going to the winner makes a lot of sense.

so if your job asked you to take a pay-cut for you next pay check you would do it ??

[j.razor]

You would have have to be an idiot to think Oscar was not the main reason that fight did the numbers it did do.

Oscar was the ultimate cash cow, ever fight he fought in pretty much did the numbers they did because of him

if floyd was reason then his fight would have done more than 900-950k buys vs hatton

as you can find out yourself

Floyd vs Hatton 950k
Floyd vs Marquez 1.05m
Floyd vs mosley 1.4m
Floyd vs ortiz 1.25m
Floyd vs cotto 1.5m (thanks to cannelo vs mosley as well)

Pac vs Hatton 800k
Pac vs cotto 1.25
Pac vs clottey 750k
Pac vs Margo 1.15m
Pac vs Mosley 1.3m
Pac vs marquez 1.41m

use your own head to work out what is fair
Pa

and you must be a REAL idiot to think that oscar can do that on his own...oh, and oscar didnt do those numbers when he fought manny. DUH!