Roberto Duran ATG? Give me a break..

[StarshipTrooper]

Fine, you are allowed an opinion..

What does Leonard do better than Floyd then?

Damn near everything except button down in a defensive shell. Leonard is a bigger puncher, has a better jab, has a higher work rate, is just as good a counter-puncher. Not to mention Leonard is a natural Welter and Floyd isn't. The only thing Floyd does better than Leonard is defense, and he achieves that at the expense of his work-rate which is score card suicide against Ray Leonard.

Poet

[StarshipTrooper]

I think he'd put Ali into the corner late and stop him.

His power is unreal and has great head movement to slip punches.

If he can't get to Ali then Ali wins an easy unanamious.

You mean the way he put Tony Tucker and in corner late and stopped him? :thinking9:

[Andyreww]

Damn near everything except button down in a defensive shell. Leonard is a bigger puncher, has a better jab, has a higher work rate, is just as good a counter-puncher. Not to mention Leonard is a natural Welter and Floyd isn't. The only thing Floyd does better than Leonard is defense, and he achieves that at the expense of his work-rate which is score card suicide against Ray Leonard.

Poet

So Floyd doesn't have better timing and reflexes than Leonard?

Leonard has a better jab and more power. probably SLIGHTLY faster.

Mayweather has better defense, leg movement, timing and reflexes.

Close fight.

[Cloud]

Damn near everything except button down in a defensive shell. Leonard is a bigger puncher, has a better jab, has a higher work rate, is just as good a counter-puncher. Not to mention Leonard is a natural Welter and Floyd isn't. The only thing Floyd does better than Leonard is defense, and he achieves that at the expense of his work-rate which is score card suicide against Ray Leonard.

Poet

Pretty much this THB.

I think lots of people forget SRL could punch pretty damn hard early in his career.

[StarshipTrooper]

So Floyd doesn't have better timing and reflexes than Leonard?

Nope. Try again. Better yet, Try actually WATCHING some of Ray Leonard's fights.

Poet

[Andyreww]

Nope. Try again. Better yet, Try actually WATCHING some of Ray Leonard's fights.

Poet

Sigh.... If you want to ride his **** then do it. he's an ATG and it'd be a close fight.

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JUST SAYING

[StarshipTrooper]

Sigh.... If you want to ride his **** then do it. he's an ATG and it'd be a close fight.

Hardly riding Leonard's ****: In fact, I dislike the dude and think he's an azzhole. Better advice would be for you to get off Floyd's nutsack: You're acting like he's the GOAT and he most certainly is NOT.

Poet

[Andyreww]

Hardly riding Leonard's ****: In fact, I dislike the dude and think he's an *******. Better advice would be for you to get off Floyd's nutsack: You're acting like he's the GOAT and he most certainly is NOT.

Poet

Not just Floyd. Jones JR. Pacquiao. Hopkins will all be known as ATG's.

No you ride his **** because he fought back in the 70's 80's when boxing was obviously 100 times superior and they were all mini arnold's back then.

[StarshipTrooper]

Sigh.... If you want to ride his **** then do it. he's an ATG and it'd be a close fight.

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JUST SAYING

Pssst. In case you didn't know, compubox stats are bull****. Just sayin'.

Poet

[bojangles1987]

Sigh.... If you want to ride his **** then do it. he's an ATG and it'd be a close fight.

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JUST SAYING

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