Comments Thread For: Conte: Peterson Case Could Be Smart Method of Doping

[Money_May]

its not that effective tho. it gives next to no benefit. for comparison allistar overeems t:e ration was 14:1. lamonts was well under the 4:1 mark from what ive heard. imo its more likely he was cycling off and didnt expect to get caught.

Sounds like he was cycling off to me too.

its either this or he didnt use or a masking agent or the masking agent failed (which very rarely happens)

[Kagami Taiga]

Conte sounds like it would beneficial anyway to just continue pellets, cream, gel or whatever and just stay under 4:1 at all times.

I'm not sure if there is an assumption out there that is no effectiveness to being at or slightly below 4:1 because it's allowable within the rules. Normal men are supposed to be at a ratio of 1:1; so, any differences created artificially through PED's to bring you above 1:1 (or a slightly higher because you are a young professional athlete) would be seen as cheating.

oh i agree its cheating definitely. but from what i know and if u know what testosterone is, the more u have in your body, the more effective it is at increasing your physical prowess/muscle building etc. the truth is, this is a very old way of doping, not one used anymore one of the primary reasons being that in order for u to have any good effects from it, u have to get a lot of testosterone in your body, which is easily detectable without a masking agent. so, to me, its like why would he risk cheating for such a miniscule amount that would not make much of a difference in anything any way. its sounds more like he was using at around the time of the previous khan fight and he was hoping itd be out of his system.

[Gino Ros]

I'm not buying that Tim Bradley vegan ish either.

[Gino Ros]

Very possible that he was cycling off, it all depends on dosage too though.

A guy the size of Overeem with the build he has, he was probably using straight Test E at a high dosage. The form of test Peterson was using hasn't been mentioned yet I don't think, but the dosage doesn't need to be too high to boost athletic peformance.

Overeeem and Lesnar were BOTH juicy.

Lesnar just hasnt been caught

[lyonheart]

it wasnt synthetic testosterone. It was derived from soy. Didnt even bring his levels to a normal range. http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http...9jRLihKTVm9g0A check this out

[Money_May]

I'm not buying that Tim Bradley vegan ish either.

[Kagami Taiga]

it wasnt synthetic testosterone. It was derived from soy. Didnt even bring his levels to a normal range. http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http...9jRLihKTVm9g0A check this out

most synthetic testosterone is derived from soy. thats not anything earth shattering.

[gmc_rfc_06]

Overeeem and Lesnar were BOTH juicy.

Lesnar just hasnt been caught

Lesnar was juicing at a point, absolutely.

Not in UFC though, I don't believe. He didn't have the muscle fullness or density that a juiced Lesnar had. Overeem, he has and has had the muscle fullness of a serious test user.

[switchsouthpaw]

I'm not sure how to feel about this. Play devil's advocate, let's say he did go to the doctor and was diagnosed with low-T, which could be debilitating for a normal person, much less an athlete. Should he have to complete with low levels? Or would being prescribed something to bring him up to what is considered "normal" range, would that be okay? I understand the issue of cheating, but from the perspective of having to train and suffer poor recovery due to low-t, in a sense is that unfair as well. Not saying I side with Lamont, but don't be so quick to throw him under a bus either.

[Gino Ros]

I'm not sure how to feel about this. Play devil's advocate, let's say he did go to the doctor and was diagnosed with low-T, which could be debilitating for a normal, much less an athlete. Should he have to complete with low levels? Or would being prescribed something to bring him up to what is considered "normal" range, would that be okay? I understand the issue of cheating, but from the perspective of having to train and suffer poor recovery due to low-t, in a sense that is unfair as well. Not saying I side with Lamont, but don't be so quick to throw him under a bus either.

All Peterson had to do was disclose.


You men to tell me that you went to the doctor a few months ago, and he surgically implants something in your hip....and you forget?

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