How would Hopkins do with the former greats?

[Tarver is my dad]

Boxing right now is not as popular as it was 20-30 years ago. You ask the average sports fan, and they would not be able to name any current champions right now. Whereas, 20 years ago, you could name plenty. It is not because the fighters were better or worse, it's just because the sport of boxing is not as dynamic and does not have the political relevance it had 20-30 years ago.

[TyrantT316]

i hate ppl who think that todays fighters would lose to the past fighters. thats just so ******. hopkins beats hearns and leonard and loses to hagler,rjj and robinson , that the only fighters i could comment on

I don't mind people making arguments about that...but I agree...it is plain ****** when people simply say a fighter from today loses to a great from the past just because they are a great from the past...

YES sports back in the day held more prestige as money and politics were not the biggest factor...Boxing back then was more glamourous...yes...but that doesn't mean that head 2 head, every past great could be every current great

[Yogi]

Boxing right now is not as popular as it was 20-30 years ago. You ask the average sports fan, and they would not be able to name any current champions right now. Whereas, 20 years ago, you could name plenty. It is not because the fighters were better or worse, it's just because the sport of boxing is not as dynamic and does not have the political relevance it had 20-30 years ago.

The single biggest reason boxing was much more popular back in the 70's & 80's, was because on any given weekend you could watch a couple/few top quality scraps right there on your television screen (on ABC, NBC, & CBS) and you didn't have to shell out $50+ bucks for the privelage of watching a Heavyweight title fight (or any other championship fight for that matter, save for the MEGA super fights like Leonard/Hearns, Holmes/Cooney, etc.).

The advent of PPV put bucks in some people's pockets, but it definately ruined the sports popularity on the whole.

[bluemax]

Hopkins beats Hearns and Leonard!! Yur Kiddin Right!!! You had me going there!!! HA! HA! HA! Yeah and Buster Douglas would knock out Joe Lewis in the first round. Or how about John Ruiz beating Cassius Clay on points in the Olympics!! Odds are about the same

[Super_Lightweight]

hmm

vs Hagler, Hops loses a close UD, 9-7-1 for Hagler in 15 rds
vs Hearns, Hops wins TKO10
vs Leonard, Hops wins by splt decision
Robinson, Robinson wins by MD, 9-6, 8-7, 7-7-1 in 15 rds
never seen Monzon fight
vs Lamotta, Hops wins by stoppage, TKO13
vs McClellan, Hops loses by KO4
vs Jones Jr., Hops loses by UD12, 8-4, 8-4, 7-5

[AintGottaClue]

how does someone be champ for 10 years but not fight any competition? did i miss somewhere that hopkins ducked great fighters for 10 years?

[Yogi]

vs Lamotta, Hops wins by stoppage, TKO13

I don't have any objections to your favouring of Hopkins over LaMotta, SL, but could you explain your reasoning behind the stoppage win?

Personally, I think it's very unlikely that Hopkins stops Jake LaMotta, when you consider that even a past his prime LaMotta extended Robinson thirteen rounds in their Middleweight championship fight. As well as considering the harder punching (than Hopkins...a one punch KO of a VERY sturdy Gene Fullmer is all one needs to know, but there's other examples) Robinson fought LaMotta much more aggressively than what Hopkins would against Jake.

[Brockton Lip]

I see Lamotta crushing Hopkins, hes way too agressive.

[Zab Super Judah]

I know this is fantasy boxing, but Hopkins just fought tonight and would like to see all your opinions...

Not the Hopkins of 10 years ago, not the Hopkins of today, but that Hopkins of 4 years ago that fought Trinidad..


How would he do against

Hagler
Hearns
Leonard
Robinson
Monzon
LaMotta
McLellan
Jones Jr.

Please don't predict on a fight if you haven't seen a fighter.

I think the Hopkins that beat trinidad would beat hearns

[Super_Lightweight]

hmm

I don't have any objections to your favouring of Hopkins over LaMotta, SL, but could you explain your reasoning behind the stoppage win?

Personally, I think it's very unlikely that Hopkins stops Jake LaMotta, when you consider that even a past his prime LaMotta extended Robinson thirteen rounds in their Middleweight championship fight. As well as considering the harder punching (than Hopkins...a one punch KO of a VERY sturdy Gene Fullmer is all one needs to know, but there's other examples) Robinson fought LaMotta much more aggressively than what Hopkins would against Jake.

I disagree that Hops would fight him less aggressively. Hops in his prime could be quite aggressive, and was. Lamotta would try to bully Hopkins and I see Hops tiring Lamotta a bit with his roughhousing and ending up cutting him, doc stops fight on cuts late. To me, a fight between Lamotta and Hops is a dirty and furiously fought contest with Hops getting the better of it late when the doc stops it on cuts as opposed to Lamotta being delerious from a Hopkins beatdown.