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  • Tha Greatest
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    #1

    How would Hopkins do with the former greats?

    I know this is fantasy boxing, but Hopkins just fought tonight and would like to see all your opinions...

    Not the Hopkins of 10 years ago, not the Hopkins of today, but that Hopkins of 4 years ago that fought Trinidad..


    How would he do against

    Hagler
    Hearns
    Leonard
    Robinson
    Monzon
    LaMotta
    McLellan
    Jones Jr.

    Please don't predict on a fight if you haven't seen a fighter.
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    #2
    Originally posted by Tha_Greatest
    I know this is fantasy boxing, but Hopkins just fought tonight and would like to see all your opinions...

    Not the Hopkins of 10 years ago, not the Hopkins of today, but that Hopkins of 4 years ago that fought Trinidad..


    How would he do against

    Hagler
    Hearns
    Leonard
    Robinson
    Monzon
    LaMotta
    McLellan
    Jones Jr.

    Please don't predict on a fight if you haven't seen a fighter.
    He would lose to all of them.

    As much as I respect Hopkins as a fighter he should be remembered most for his training, his conditioning, and the fact that He was still a champ at 40 years old which is unheard of these days.

    He should never be classified as a top 5 MW of all time because He just didn't fight the competition. Simple as that.

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    • bluemax
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      #3
      I agree Hopkins was a great top 10 Middleweight champion not a top 5 and it has nothing to do with him losing to Taylor who I believe at this stage isn't even as good as some of the fighters Hopkins fought earlier in his career. Hopkins longevity can be explained by his great connditioning and lack of great competition. While wins over fighters such as De la-Hoya and Felix Trindad proves he was a great fighter I have never seen anything to lead me to believe he could go toe to toe against fighters such as Hagler, Monzon, Robinson or Hearns. Heck I'd would have liked to see him last 5 rounds with fighters in the mold of John the Beast Mugbi

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      • kbpoetree
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        #4
        Originally posted by TuPrincipe
        He would lose to all of them.

        As much as I respect Hopkins as a fighter he should be remembered most for his training, his conditioning, and the fact that He was still a champ at 40 years old which is unheard of these days.

        He should never be classified as a top 5 MW of all time because He just didn't fight the competition. Simple as that.
        wow...people are really ignorant..alwayz usen the aint fought no body..well guess ****en what..i dont think he was in the ring by himself all these years...

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        • TheEvilSaint
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          #5
          Originally posted by Tha_Greatest
          I know this is fantasy boxing, but Hopkins just fought tonight and would like to see all your opinions...

          Not the Hopkins of 10 years ago, not the Hopkins of today, but that Hopkins of 4 years ago that fought Trinidad..


          How would he do against

          Hagler
          Hearns
          Leonard
          Robinson
          Monzon
          LaMotta
          McLellan
          Jones Jr.

          Please don't predict on a fight if you haven't seen a fighter.
          hagler would win in a grueling brutal in fighting war by UD.
          he would beat hearns by late round TKO.
          i dunno about leonard, i would probly fall asleep in this borefest.
          robinson would stop hopkins in the late rounds.
          monzon would beat him the same way hagler would.
          lamotta would lose by UD.
          mcclellan would either win by KO or lose by UD.
          uhh, jones already beat hopkins.

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          • Memorex
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            #6
            i hate ppl who think that todays fighters would lose to the past fighters. thats just so ******. hopkins beats hearns and leonard and loses to hagler,rjj and robinson , that the only fighters i could comment on

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            • TheEvilSaint
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              #7
              Originally posted by memorex
              i hate ppl who think that todays fighters would lose to the past fighters. thats just so ******. hopkins beats hearns and leonard and loses to hagler,rjj and robinson , that the only fighters i could comment on
              well today's fighters really really suck and havent gone thru hard times and hard lives like the fighters from the past have.

              fighters from the past fought to win and fought to survive. fighters today only fight for money and nothing else.

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              • Red_Menace
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                #8
                Originally posted by TheEvilSaint
                well today's fighters really really suck and havent gone thru hard times and hard lives like the fighters from the past have....
                Hopkins spent his whole life growing up in and out of juvenile and in prison ... the guy was a prison boxing champ. Sounds easy.

                I don't really think you can compare eras. You can say that all of Hopkins competition was bad, or maybe he just made them look really bad. Maybe some of these guys he fought would have done better in another era and worse in others. It's impossible to say. There are more unknowns in boxing now, because the sport doesn't have the same popularity that it used to. That doesn't necessarily mean the fighters aren't as good, it just means we haven't heard of them.

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                • TheEvilSaint
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Red_Menace
                  Hopkins spent his whole life growing up in and out of juvenile and in prison ... the guy was a prison boxing champ. Sounds easy.

                  I don't really think you can compare eras. You can say that all of Hopkins competition was bad, or maybe he just made them look really bad. Maybe some of these guys he fought would have done better in another era and worse in others. It's impossible to say. There are more unknowns in boxing now, because the sport doesn't have the same popularity that it used to. That doesn't necessarily mean the fighters aren't as good, it just means we haven't heard of them.
                  yes, hopkins went thru some hard times, but hardly anyone else in this era can even fathom what hardships lamotta and robinson when thru.

                  some people think growing up on the "rough streets of whatevertown" or "hardass city" makes you hard. ask jake lamotta what it takes to be hard.

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                  • TheEvilSaint
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Red_Menace
                    Hopkins spent his whole life growing up in and out of juvenile and in prison ... the guy was a prison boxing champ. Sounds easy.

                    I don't really think you can compare eras. You can say that all of Hopkins competition was bad, or maybe he just made them look really bad. Maybe some of these guys he fought would have done better in another era and worse in others. It's impossible to say. There are more unknowns in boxing now, because the sport doesn't have the same popularity that it used to. That doesn't necessarily mean the fighters aren't as good, it just means we haven't heard of them.
                    we know of people that 99.9% of america doesnt even know exists. if you go up to people on the street and you say a boxer's name other than "mike tyson, george foreman, muhammad ali, joe louis, or evander holyfield" they will say "who the hell is that?" thats how unknown boxing is today. and if ur an unknown in the unknown world of boxing, ur a true to life bum who doesnt deserve to be known. there are too many people in this sport who suck so bad they shouldnt even be considered fighters.

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