Comments Thread For: NSAC: Peterson Not Licensed, Took Testosterone Pellets

[Fetta]

Nevermind Manny Pacquiao. Of course Manny Pacquiao's name is going to be the most prominent name on the subject of random testing since he's the biggest advocate for non-compliance. This is about Lamont Peterson. I truly believe that Lamont Peterson cheated. If it was cheating with PEDs before or after the big win. The big win was tainted anyway but now it's supertainted. Amir Khan was cheated out of his titles and LP would've cheated to keep the titles. Even if a guy worked his whole life to reach a certain point, cheating is unacceptable. With that said, I will not defend LP the way the pinoys defend Pacquiao for cheating the scales to provide for his poor family. Cheating is cheating and it is unacceptable.

Not only that he may have been cheated out of a big money fight with Floyd. Got called a hype job and other things too.

And i have tix to this fight. Sad day for boxing and for my wallet

[trend]

Pac agreed to the unlimited USADA random urine tests without any cutoff.
It was the blood tests that he wanted a cutoff initially.

Isn't the method USADA employ for urine testing the same as VADA?

No. Vada forgoes T:E ratio testing in favor of CIR testing. Urine will only tell the tale of what an athlete is using based upon the test that is administered. Provided one maintains a T:E ratio within the legal limits of the sanctioning body (some 6:1 on the Olympic stage 4:1), an athlete can use testosterone without raising an eyebrow, once knowing how a singular dose effects his/her body. VADA is aware of this and uses a CIR method, so even if your ratios remain consistent, You will be caught due to the difference in molecular weight and structure of a man's own testosterone and that which comes out of a vial. Which is why the "basic" test didn't produce a + with Lamont, but VADA's test MONTHS later did

[GRUSTLER]

Not only that he may have been cheated out of a big money fight with Floyd. Got called a hype job and other things too.

And i have tix to this fight. Sad day for boxing and for my wallet

Yeah man, everything Peterson worked hard for went out the window. I was rooting for this guy. Talking about he didn't remember if he took something or not. Dude is obviously guilty.

[Fetta]

Not true.

How did this become a PPV discussion

I was wondering that too. I dont even think the numbers were released so they going on what.

[tatangb45]

So you're saying the urine test caught Peterson "BEFORE" the Khan fight in December? Is that what you're sitting here telling me?

Have you been drinking again?

[richardt]

This proves that they need to make Olympic testing mandatory. Mayweather seems to be gaining ground on this subject now that cases are coming out liek this. Granted, I don't think Pac is on steroids/PED's, but something has to be done as a whole before this sport sinks itself completaly.

[Roman Moreno]

But what caught Peterson wasn't the urine test before the fight but the VADA urine tests months later going into the rematch. VADA does blood and urine so wouldn't it be that stricter blood and urine tests would not be what the commission is all about?

Yes but that's not his point.

It's not hard to comprehend his point.

[Mr. David]

Pac said "The commission".

Or are you saying that only the DC commission has let fighters fight on roids?

Your implication in "this is the commission" was in reference to Nevada, where Pacquiao would want the fight to be, and the commission that Top Rank has said is good enough to handle the drug testing.

But the commission that Peterson would've "got away with it" was D.C., which handled the first fight between Lamont and Amir.

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[mozilla1986]

I didn't think it took that long for them to test blood or urine for PEDs. Is this how long it usually takes? How long have they been sitting on this information?

Man was really excited about this fight. Had a lot of respect for Peterson and the character that he brings to the ring, this will be a major setback for him.

[Reloaded]

If he took these pellets before the the first Khan fight, how come the DC commission didn't find any thing in his urine sample immediately after the bout, but this urine sample, months later, did? Fishy, to say the least. The fight should be overturned to an NC.

This was a very long time ago and I can't quite remember it exactly, but this program that I seen shot by ABC (I believe) interviewed some doctors who basically said, there is no accurately set level of testosterone for any age group, which makes it very easy for any guy to walk in and get something prescribed for it. Peterson may have had legitimately low levels of testosterone or not - it's obviously not our place to say, and we may never truly know.

It was picked up by the blood test and missed by the urine test , a piss test is super easy to beat !