Comments Thread For: NSAC: Peterson Not Licensed, Took Testosterone Pellets

[Russian Crushin]

Seen them fight plenty. Keyword: fight.

I did see Molina hug kirkland as if they were conjoined twins. Something his fight with Lara didn't look like.

Did you see Hopkins last fight? That wasnt fighting

Does matter which fight had more hugs, molina has always been a hugger

[Light_Speed]

But that excuse doesnt run for pac

From the moment when Floyd decided to test Pac and Pac refused, he tested all his opponents since then, showing people how serious he is about this. Not the case for AA, he tested Taylor but not Dirrell, that's not the behavior of somebody who's serious about testing so he shouldn't be taken seriously.

Wait, so when you're negotiating venue, ref, judges, you can't negotiate OST?

You can but don't blame a fighter for refusing OST when it's not in the contract, same thing for Hopkins and Pascal in the rematch. If you didn't think it was important enough to put it in the contract, then you're just playing mind games.

That's my whole point in this thread. I feel bad for Khan more than anything because this so called commission didn't do their job and protect the fighter.

Peterson is crap for doing what he did, but it's the commissions job to catch stuff like this; not another organization outside the commission catching it months later after the fact like is always the case.

The commission needs to step up and implement OST for all championship fights. The cut of the testing should be split between the fighters proportionally to the purse split (the guy who makes 60% of the money takes care of 60% of the testing cost, etc.)

[deejd]

Did you see Hopkins last fight? That wasnt fighting

Does matter which fight had more hugs, molina has always been a hugger

Can't take you seriously.

[Russian Crushin]

Can't take you seriously.

.......Ok then

[deejd]

From the moment when Floyd decided to test Pac and Pac refused, he tested all his opponents since then, showing people how serious he is about this. Not the case for AA, he tested Taylor but not Dirrell, that's not the behavior of somebody who's serious about testing so he shouldn't be taken seriously.



The commission needs to step up and implement OST for all championship fights. The cut of the testing should be split between the fighters proportionally to the purse split (the guy who makes 60% of the money takes care of 60% of the testing cost, etc.)

Your first post is spot on... consistency certainly helps the cause. And that's not a bad idea at all for testing.

[Roman Moreno]

You can but don't blame a fighter for refusing OST when it's not in the contract, same thing for Hopkins and Pascal in the rematch. If you didn't think it was important enough to put it in the contract, then you're just playing mind games.

If what wasn't under contract? The Ward-AA situation is much different than the Hopkins-Pascal situation. What Hopkins-Pascal thing was after everything was negotiated and accepted and signed. The Froch-Ward is a better comparison to the Hopkins-Pascal situation. Ward-AA was DURING NEGOTIATIONS, NOT after like Pascal-Hopkins and Froch-Ward. It was During while negotiating venue, date, ref, judges etc etc.

[Light_Speed]

If what wasn't under contract? The Ward-AA situation is much different than the Hopkins-Pascal situation. What Hopkins-Pascal thing was after everything was negotiated and accepted and signed. The Froch-Ward is a better comparison to the Hopkins-Pascal situation. Ward-AA was DURING NEGOTIATIONS, NOT after like Pascal-Hopkins and Froch-Ward. It was During while negotiating venue, date, ref, judges etc etc.

But they all signed a contract when the tournament started right? It left room for negotiations but the bottomline is random testing wasn't mandatory, so AA asked Ward to do something he didn't ask all his opponents to do. Negotiations are about gaining a psychological edge, Ward wasn't gonna let AA force him to do something he didn't do the rest of the tournament and put him out of his comfort zone.

This sh.it is turning into a whitch hunt.

[Roman Moreno]

But they all signed a contract when the tournament started right? It left room for negotiations but the bottomline is random testing wasn't mandatory, so AA asked Ward to do something he didn't ask all his opponents to do. Negotiations are about gaining a psychological edge, Ward wasn't gonna let AA force him to do something he didn't do the rest of the tournament and put him out of his comfort zone.

So a new excuse for Ward not accepting OST during negotations, not after like Froch-Ward or Hopkins-Pascal, no not after but during. Would put him outside his comfort zone. Cool excuse fine.

BTW, why did Ward team lied about having it under contractual agreement that OST would be taken place in the S6? Lie after lie, excuse after excuse. And, somehow fans not seeing a problem? OK.

It doesn't matter, it really doesn't. If you think it's OK for Ward to say thanks but no thanks to OST during NEGOTIATIONS. Then Ward did nothing wrong and he should get the benefit of the doubt. I'm done with this subject.

[Russian Crushin]

But they all signed a contract when the tournament started right? It left room for negotiations but the bottomline is random testing wasn't mandatory, so AA asked Ward to do something he didn't ask all his opponents to do. Negotiations are about gaining a psychological edge, Ward wasn't gonna let AA force him to do something he didn't do the rest of the tournament and put him out of his comfort zone.

This sh.it is turning into a whitch hunt.

Question

WHats your stance on Pac refusing it in 2009?

[JAS_JAS]

lol why do i get the feeling they're blaming pac here in this thread for peterson failing a test? , these flowmos hate are boundless...