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  • ab4life
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    #1

    Not in his prime to convenient

    While I agree there are dozens upon dozens of cases where it is evident a fighter is far past his better days, the term is thrown about to much and in most circumstances as a defense to a fans favorite fighter having a poor to tougher than expected fight / lose. Taking Floyd and cotto since they fought recently, all I keep reading is "past his prime". Will I agree that each fighter may have lost something, I don't believe it is much. Floyd struggled in his "prime" with Castillo and just happened to meet up with a very capable cotto also not far from "prime". There is more to the assessment than a bad performance, and this can be illustrated by looking back at previouse fights in both fighters resumes. If Bradley happens to upset Pac I am sure dozens of posts will also arise claiming he was past his "prime"
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    #2
    floyd is not past prime and cotto fought the fight of his life and made things interesting.great fight

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      #3
      Originally posted by larryx2013
      floyd is not past prime and cotto fought the fight of his life and made things interesting.great fight
      I agree. Floyd is a lot like Bernard Hopkins in that he is a fitness fanatic that is always in top shape. I see him being in top form for a couple of years

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        #4
        Originally posted by TehRedRanger
        Floyd IS past his prime. Whoever doesn't know a 35 year old boxer is not the same as he was in his 25 is just plain ******.

        Way past his physical prime. Still fast though and can beat most out there.
        he is past his physical prime but is still great and far from shot.his age is no excuse for the Cotto fight.Cotto fought great and helped make it a great fight.Floyd proved he was great in that fight.he manned up and busted Cotto up.......

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        • IronDanHamza
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          #5
          Mayweather is clearly passed his prime.

          He's still the best fighter in the sport IMO but he's obviously not the fighter he was in 2006-2007.

          You can see in his face alone in his last 2 fights that he has aged quite a lot. Even since the Mosley fight.

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          • ab4life
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            #6
            Originally posted by TehRedRanger
            Floyd IS past his prime. Whoever doesn't know a 35 year old boxer is not the same as he was in his 25 is just plain ******.

            Way past his physical prime. Still fast though and can beat most out there.
            Not ****** just observant. Though a little out of peak I don't believe he is as far off as many think he is. The modern athlete is different with a longer prime than in the past (bhop).

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            • bojangles1987
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              #7
              Both are past their prime. It's common sense.

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                #8
                Originally posted by larryx2013
                floyd is not past prime and cotto fought the fight of his life and made things interesting.great fight
                Originally posted by ab4life
                I agree. Floyd is a lot like Bernard Hopkins in that he is a fitness fanatic that is always in top shape. I see him being in top form for a couple of years
                He is past prime. And yes, he is still a great fighter... the two are not mutually exclusive. Just because he's still good, doesn't mean he's at his best. Same with Hopkins, he was still a top fighter into his 40s... doesn't mean he was at his best.

                Originally posted by larryx2013
                he is past his physical prime but is still great and far from shot.his age is no excuse for the Cotto fight.Cotto fought great and helped make it a great fight.Floyd proved he was great in that fight.he manned up and busted Cotto up.......
                I agree, Cotto fought his ass off and beat Mayweather up like no one has done for a long time... if ever, tbh.

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                • Kagami Taiga
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by ab4life
                  While I agree there are dozens upon dozens of cases where it is evident a fighter is far past his better days, the term is thrown about to much and in most circumstances as a defense to a fans favorite fighter having a poor to tougher than expected fight / lose. Taking Floyd and cotto since they fought recently, all I keep reading is "past his prime". Will I agree that each fighter may have lost something, I don't believe it is much. Floyd struggled in his "prime" with Castillo and just happened to meet up with a very capable cotto also not far from "prime". There is more to the assessment than a bad performance, and this can be illustrated by looking back at previouse fights in both fighters resumes. If Bradley happens to upset Pac I am sure dozens of posts will also arise claiming he was past his "prime"
                  i really dont get the point ur trying to make with all this. both guys are passed their primes and many weight classes north of where they started out. ur arguments are weak to anyone who understands boxing.

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                  • T-97
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by DempseyRollin
                    i really dont get the point ur trying to make with all this. both guys are passed their primes and many weight classes north of where they started out. ur arguments are weak to anyone who understands boxing.
                    I think some people take 'past prime' to mean shot sometimes, rather than meaning they're just a bit past their best years.

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