1 thing i have noticed bout Cotto fans and appreciate

[IMDAZED]

Yes, its really that simple. Thats what i was saying and i was making zero implications regarding floyd-shane. Only that an earlier win vs shane would have been better. Like if he beat manny a few yrs ago as opposed to beating him in 1-2 more years.

Yep, just like it would have been a better win for Shane back then and a better win for Manny too. Maybe, as you said with Floyd, they should've tried harder to make it happen.

As far as the secojd paragraph. I said i wish floyd went out of his way to enhance his atg status more as opposed to fighting for the money. I gave margs, hatton, paq, and sergio as examples so far. I could have added more, but i didnt and i do think there are times when floyd could have tried harder to get fights that would enhance his legacy. But ya'll fools are dragging that into the convo in your rush to defend floyd. I was talking about fights he could have easily had that would enhahce his atg status.

I wish every fighter did that. But again, why are you singling him out? He's arguably greater than every fighter you mentioned. Why don't you single out every fighter you mentioned for not doing more to fight him? Furthermore, two of those fights are still possible, especially the last one. So forgive me if I'm not waxing wistfully over a past that's still present.

[IronDanHamza]

Yes, its really that simple. Thats what i was saying and i was making zero implications regarding floyd-shane. Only that an earlier win vs shane would have been better. Like if he beat manny a few yrs ago as opposed to beating him in 1-2 more years.

As far as the secojd paragraph. I said i wish floyd went out of his way to enhance his atg status more as opposed to fighting for the money. I gave margs, hatton, paq, and sergio as examples so far. I could have added more, but i didnt and i do think there are times when floyd could have tried harder to get fights that would enhance his legacy. But ya'll fools are dragging that into the convo in your rush to defend floyd. I was talking about fights he could have easily had that would enhahce his atg status.

The other's are good examples.

Hatton is a terrible example.

[Walt Liquor]

I've asked that question numerous times I constantly asked you "Are you saying he avoided Shane?" "How did he avoid Shane" and you simply wouldn't answer.

Ok, so we've established that Mayweather tried to and Shane wouldn't fight him.

So, going back to your orginial point - "Mayweather could have been a Top 25 ATG, if he wanted to"

How does this situation with Shane fit your criteria? Considering, you've established it was out of Mayweather's hands.

This same thing applies for Hatton at 140.

It's funny you talk about reading comprehension, yet, it's taken you 30+ pages
to get here.

And i clearly answered the question awhile ago dumbass. Look at a response to dazed.

And you're actyally dumb enough to ask how the shane point enhances my point when i clearly told dazed at least 5 times that the shane situation has nothing to do with my point. I was talking about 4 fights period.

Lets do a reading comprehension test.

What 4 fights?


And you are a real fool if you dont think floyd beating the man that beat kostya at 140 amd won the lineal championship at 140 wouldnt have enhanced his resume more than beating hatton at 147. Since when does beating the real chp at their weight not enhance your resume over beating them at another weight?

[NChristo]

****ing Boxrec warrior.

*Trys to think of fighters you like who have been robbed*

****!

Think I'm gonna chalk this up as a victory.

[Walt Liquor]

Yep, just like it would have been a better win for Shane back then and a better win for Manny too. Maybe, as you said with Floyd, they should've tried harder to make it happen.

I wish every fighter did that. But again, why are you singling him out? He's arguably greater than every fighter you mentioned. Why don't you single out every fighter you mentioned for not doing more to fight him? Furthermore, two of those fights are still possible, especially the last one. So forgive me if I'm not waxing wistfully over a past that's still present.

Maybe because i came into a thread where people were talking about floyd mayweather. I dont know, maybe.

Yall should be wondering why you lost your shi t for the last 100 posts. It wasnt some groundbreaking insight, just chatting about what i think floyd could have done to get his name in there with the best ever.


And you and dan can call the hatton one a bad example but you're 100% wrong.

Floyd doesnt have a lineal championship at 140. He could have. It would have enhanced his legacy and that's undeniable. Whats the first thing historians like rold mention when discussing legacy? If not the first, one of the top 3 things mentioned is lineal championships in different weight classes.

[IronDanHamza]

And i clearly answered the question awhile ago dumbass. Look at a response to dazed.

No, you really didn't.

I don't know what you said to DAZED.

And you're actyally dumb enough to ask how the shane point enhances my point when i clearly told dazed at least 5 times that the shane situation has nothing to do with my point. I was talking about 4 fights period.

So why even mention it? If we've now established it's irrelevant.

Lets do a reading comprehension test.

What 4 fights?

From what I recall, Margarito, Hatton at 140 () Pacquaio and Martinez.

And you are a real fool if you dont think floyd beating the man that beat kostya at 140 amd won the lineal championship at 140 wouldnt have enhanced his resume more than beating hatton at 147. Since when does beating the real chp at their weight not enhance your resume over beating them at another weight?

He did beat that guy. In his prime.

He get's as much credit from me and almost everyone in the UK who followed Hatton's career at 147 than he would at 140. Hatton is the same fighter at 140 than he is at 147.

Anyone who followed his career knows that.

[IMDAZED]

Maybe because i came into a thread where people were talking about floyd mayweather. I dont know, maybe.

I'd be inclined to believe that if I didn't see you in another thread today (perhaps that you created?) waxing about the old Floyd too. So yes, you have singled him out although those examples you used could easily be applied to...your examples!

Yall should be wondering why you lost your shi t for the last 100 posts. It wasnt some groundbreaking insight, just chatting about what i think floyd could have done to get his name in there with the best ever.

I'm doing the same, just chatting about the topic. But I've lost my ****? Hmmm.

And you and dan can call the hatton one a bad example but you're 100% wrong.

I can't call it a bad example because I don't know what it's an example of. Of a fight that should've happened? Well ok. Of a fight that didn't happen because of Floyd? No.

Floyd doesnt have a lineal championship at 140. He could have. It would have enhanced his legacy and that's undeniable. Whats the first thing historians like rold mention when discussing legacy? If not the first, one of the top 3 things mentioned is lineal championships in different weight classes.

I don't give that any greater thought than I do Floyd beating Baldomir for the lineal title.

[SplitSecond]

did hatton have stamina issues at 140?

because he seemed tired as *** going into the 6th vs floyd

[rorymac]

The Cotto fans are down-to-earth and realistic, and they know that it is very likely he will be dominated. However, they still maintain loyalty which is a good thing. Similar to some Hatton fans perhaps.

Many Pacquiao fans in NSB are genuine lunatics and think Pacquiao would actually have a chance against Floyd, which is why they get so competitive.

[IronDanHamza]

Maybe because i came into a thread where people were talking about floyd mayweather. I dont know, maybe.

Yall should be wondering why you lost your shi t for the last 100 posts. It wasnt some groundbreaking insight, just chatting about what i think floyd could have done to get his name in there with the best ever.

I think he's talking about the clear double standard you have in regards to that topic.

But what you're saying Floyd could or should have done was not his fault. Atleast not for all of them.

And you and dan can call the hatton one a bad example but you're 100% wrong.

No, it's just you clutching onto something to use to discredit.

Mayweather enhances hi ATG ranking for beating Hatton at 140 when he already has a prime Hatton on his resume.

Like beating at 140 is worlds better than beating him at 147.

Floyd doesnt have a lineal championship at 140. He could have. It would have enhanced his legacy and that's undeniable. Whats the first thing historians like rold mention when discussing legacy? If not the first, one of the top 3 things mentioned is lineal championships in different weight classes.

So then surely by this logic, he shouldn't have fought Margarito and just stuck with Baldomir?

Is it different this time when it doesn't suit you?

And, again, it was no fault of Mayweather's that he didn't fight Hatton at 140.

Which again, like the Shane example, renders your point useless and irrelevant.