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  • Arum makes fights not on how much the fighter can make, or what benefits the fighter's career or legacy...but on how much ARUM can make.

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    • Originally posted by Gino Ros View Post

      Now, say what you want about Mayweather. But he went from a $7 million offer to fight Cotto in 2008, to making $50 million to fight Cotto in 2012.

      That's $7 million minus a promoter's cut to $50 million with no promoter deduction.

      Coward...or smart?
      Good point. Both cotto and floyd get more than $7 mil to fight once Bob is gone.

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      • Originally posted by Walt Liquor View Post
        so you are saying that if he fought margs, he never would have gotten DLH? Is that not speculation?
        Not in 2007-2008. Maybe in 2009 if Oscar was still around.


        But if Floyd wouldn't have bought his contract out of TR and fought Oscar in May 2007, and instead fought Margarito like you wanted him to. That would have been a Winky-esque business. AKA a idiodic move, terribly ******ed. How you stay fighting for a guy you're going to court against. And how you fight Margarito over DLH?

        That would just be ******ed from Floyd if he did that. Obviously he was smart enough to not do that and not he's probably 100's of millions of dollars richer than he would have been if he stayed with Top Rank.

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        • Originally posted by Walt Liquor View Post
          even if you can't figure it out, martinez (at 160) and margs in place of baldo on floyd's resume would make him an arguable top 25 ATG so *** off.

          add Hatton at 140 to those two and his resume is far superior to what it is now, and I got more, since class is in session.
          Hatton at 140? Walk me through when that fight was going to be made.

          So wait, you consider Mayweather a "Lower tier ATG" yet all he had to do in your eyes was beat Margarito and Martinez and he's an argubale Top 25 ATG?

          Something doesn't add up there.

          Class is in Session? Please.

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          • Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
            He left because of a monetary dispute. You feel he should've continued to fight under the same banner he was accusing of withholding money...again? Does that make sense to you? Would you continue to work for - and put money in the pocket of - someone withholding backend money from you?
            perhaps you should reread this to get a frame of reference for my mindset during this particular floyd conversation. and margs isn't the only example

            Originally posted by Walt Liquor View Post
            It's a poor excuse either way.

            Look, I can't blame floyd for making 100 milly fighitng, but it doesn't mean he's challenged himself to the fullest, which is what psychopaths like myself care about. .

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            • Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
              Maybe Martinez. The other two? Hell no. Especially Hatton.
              I literally laughed out loud at Hatton.

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              • Walt did Floyd run over youre puppy?

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                • Originally posted by Walt Liquor View Post
                  perhaps you should reread this to get a frame of reference for my mindset during this particular floyd conversation. and margs isn't the only example
                  Yeah, I read it. And he was the running example. And based on how you answered my question (or didn't), it's clear using that as a frame of reference is pretty silly. Martinez can still happen. Who else? Hatton? You don't believe that, do you?

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                  • Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
                    I literally laughed at loud at Hatton.
                    Straw grasping.

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                    • Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
                      I literally laughed out loud at Hatton.
                      WHo was a viable opponent only because he beat a zombified Castillo. Geez,

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