1 thing i have noticed bout Cotto fans and appreciate

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or he would have left TR after margs.

He left because of a monetary dispute. You feel he should've continued to fight under the same banner he was accusing of withholding money...again? Does that make sense to you? Would you continue to work for - and put money in the pocket of - someone withholding backend money from you?

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i responded to you, did I not.

You mentioned Sergio Martinez and that fight possibility is not dead. So again, I don't know who in the world you're referencing.

[-Spinal-]

Sergio Martinez, and others. I'm sure people can figure it out, if they try not to make excuses.

Sergio is a fairly new "Floyd opponent". I mean Sergio was not being mentioned as a Floyd opponent in 06, 07, 08, 09, or 10, it started in 11-present.

Though I rather see Mayweather vs Martinez over Mayweather vs Pacquiao. Pacquiao already lost recently to Marquez, and he probably loses in June 9th as well, it's highly likely. I'm just not interested in this fight, the leagues they're in are far apart at this moment. The fight would look like a sparring session, favoring Floyd, where he just has fun playing target practice with the terribly defensively flawed Manny pacquiao.

[The Big Dunn]

you do apparently.

Man I don't know whats up with you today. I wish shane had accepted floyds challenge when shane was prime. floyd whippin shanes ass 5 years earlier and this discussion is moot.

[Gino Ros]

@ REED:

Mayweather turns down $8 million to fight Margarito
Updated: April 25, 2006, 5:27 PM ET
By Dan Rafael | ESPN.com



Arum said Mayweather preferred to await the outcome of the May 6 Oscar De La Hoya-Ricardo Mayorga fight instead of committing to Margarito because he would prefer to fight De La Hoya.

"We're not sitting waiting on De La Hoya," Ellerbe said. "He's in a tough, tough fight with Mayorga."

Many in the sport believe a De La Hoya-Mayweather fight is the biggest fight on the horizon and the only one capable of generating 1 million-plus buys on pay-per-view.

The reason Mayweather opted for the buyout rather than waiting for the May 6 result was because the contract had a limited window for the buyout, one that expired before the De La Hoya fight. However, Arum said he would have extended the window if Mayweather had asked. What Arum wouldn't do, he said, was raise the guarantees for other fights outlined in the contract.

Arum said while Mayweather would have taken the $8 million to fight Margarito, he asked for a $10 million guarantee to fight opponents such as Miguel Cotto and Ricky Hatton, when Arum was only willing to guarantee $7 million.

Arum said Mayweather also asked for $20 million to fight De La Hoya, a fight Arum said he wasn't interested in participating in.

"That's not in the cards," Arum said. "He wants $20 million for the De La Hoya fight? It's not there. Sometimes, my man, you gotta know when to hold 'em and when to fold 'em. We'll talk about things down the road."

Ellerbe said Mayweather opted for the buyout so he could be "more in control of when and who he fights next. It's as simple as that. There is nothing bad between Floyd and Bob."

Arum agreed that the split with Mayweather was not on bad terms like their brief breakup last year. In fact, Arum said, "We intend to be back together. Everything with this was honorable and good. I had offered him numbers [for a multi-fight contract extension] that were livable. His expectations are in the stratosphere. He was entitled to buy me out, and he did. We decided this was the best way to handle it. He is a free agent. We have agreed to work with each other [in the future]."

Now, say what you want about Mayweather. But he went from a $7 million offer to fight Cotto in 2008, to making $50 million to fight Cotto in 2012.

That's $7 million minus a promoter's cut to $50 million with no promoter deduction.

Coward...or smart?

[Walt Liquor]

Wondering the same thing.

So, so far we have Martinez and Margarito.

even if you can't figure it out, martinez (at 160) and margs in place of baldo on floyd's resume would make him an arguable top 25 ATG so *** off.

add Hatton at 140 to those two and his resume is far superior to what it is now, and I got more, since class is in session.

[Walt Liquor]

Sergio is a fairly new "Floyd opponent". I mean Sergio was not being mentioned as a Floyd opponent in 06, 07, 08, 09, or 10, it started in 11-present.

Though I rather see Mayweather vs Martinez over Mayweather vs Pacquiao. Pacquiao already lost recently to Marquez, and he probably loses in June 9th as well, it's highly likely. I'm just not interested in this fight, the leagues they're in are far apart at this moment. The fight would look like a sparring session, favoring Floyd, where he just has fun playing target practice with the terribly defensively flawed Manny pacquiao.

very fair points, and he's losing the sergio window right now.

i definitely agree with the bold.

but sergio's scalp at 160 now or within the past 18 months owuld have been huge for floyd. most of the guys I'm arguing with right now, think floyd spanks sergio too.

[Gino Ros]

They like cotto as a boxer they dont worship him like a god.

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even if you can't figure it out, martinez (at 160) and margs in place of baldo on floyd's resume would make him an arguable top 25 ATG so *** off.

add Hatton at 140 to those two and his resume is far superior to what it is now, and I got more, since class is in session.

Maybe Martinez. The other two? Hell no. Especially Hatton.

[The Big Dunn]

even if you can't figure it out, martinez (at 160) and margs in place of baldo on floyd's resume would make him an arguable top 25 ATG so *** off.

add Hatton at 140 to those two and his resume is far superior to what it is now, and I got more, since class is in session.

what the ****? Margarito. Come on man, who hijacked walt's account.