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  • #51
    Originally posted by GOD-FR33 View Post
    "And Ortiz's weight and strength didn't even come into the equation during the fight."

    Actually Ortiz was just getting started before his youth became his own dimise. Mayweather was getting hit clean here and there with hard body-punches and head shots. It would have been a hell of a test to see what happened down the strecth of that one. The fight was just getting good. One thing is for certain, Cotto has experience and will not walk into right hands. Besides, he has weapons Floyd should be concerned with. It's going to be a very good fight.
    Let me get this straight, Ortiz was just getting started? To do what?
    Get KO'd?

    Anyway, I can't believe anyone is interested in Mayweather v Cotto. Mayweather by KO inside of five rounds. He just hits Cotto at will. Cotto's face will be a mess, his wife will be crying and the people who bought the fight will be screaming for their money back.

    What a joke. Wake up fight fans and demand better than this crap.

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    • #52
      how in the world is floyd going to deal with the massive size advantage cotto has??

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      • #53
        Originally posted by Reloaded View Post
        Hatton fought Floyd at his careers best weight , 153 fight night Floyd was 152 , Hatton fought KT and Castillo weighing 153 fight night !

        Hatton weighed 160 fight night against Luis Collazo .

        Its not always the way its portrayed in the media , you got to look for the truth sometimes .
        but the truth is not in your post unfortunately!

        Hatton was a career 140 fighter for a reason. The reason is that he could be king there as he said himself. When he moved up to 147, he realized that he couldn't do what he could at 140 and moved back down.

        Hatton fought again at 147 because he got the opportunity to fight Floyd .... he didn't move back up to 147 because he thought that's where he is best at.

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        • #54
          Originally posted by arraamis View Post
          A lot of guys seem to have forgotten, Ortiz weighed 164lbs for his fight with Floyd, plus he was in great shape. And Ortiz's weight and strength didn't even come into the equation during the fight.

          It came down to skills

          Based on Cotto's words, he's thinking his strength and power will determine the outcome of this fight ......

          Is Cotto going to weigh more than Ortiz's 164lbs ?????????????
          Cotto and Ortiz are 2 different animals. If Ortiz would have jumped up to 154 to fight Cotto he would have got KO'd just as fast (minus the cheapshot)

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          • #55
            Originally posted by GOD-FR33 View Post
            "And Ortiz's weight and strength didn't even come into the equation during the fight."

            Actually Ortiz was just getting started before his youth became his own dimise.

            Who can actually state that "he was just getting started" without the aid of a functional crystal ball.


            Mayweather was getting hit clean here and there with hard body-punches and head shots. It would have been a hell of a test to see what happened down the strecth of that one. The fight was just getting good. One thing is for certain, Cotto has experience and will not walk into right hands. Besides, he has weapons Floyd should be concerned with. It's going to be a very good fight.
            The only shots that Ortiz were landing cleanly were the rabbit punches which resulted in a knot on the back of Floyd's head. Ortiz started charging in "ala Hatton" because boxing Floyd wasn't yielding any results and he had nothing to fall back on.

            The thing Ortiz had in his favor, that Cotto doesn't have, but will need, is a youthful exuberance that will throw all caution to the wind. Cotto absolutely will not throw caution to the wind, but he will try to outpower and outbox Floyd because his other option of going into slugger mode, will not work.

            The weapon Cotto has, that has carried him through most of his fights is his power -- and he has to go flat-footed to deliver .... once that is removed by Floyd's defense and movement, then Cotto has a huge problem on his hands.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
              but the truth is not in your post unfortunately!

              Hatton was a career 140 fighter for a reason. The reason is that he could be king there as he said himself. When he moved up to 147, he realized that he couldn't do what he could at 140 and moved back down.

              Hatton fought again at 147 because he got the opportunity to fight Floyd .... he didn't move back up to 147 because he thought that's where he is best at.
              You cant be that pig ignorant can you , what dont you get Hatton was 153 fighting KT and was the same fighting Floyd ,,,,, oh I get it , your one of those that think the written weight class number is more important the actual weight that they fight at ,,,, typical fan boy that knows sheeet about boxing in the ring no wonder your a Pac fan .
              Last edited by Reloaded; 05-02-2012, 08:49 PM.

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              • #57
                ?

                "Floyd's defense and movement"

                Floyd is a reflex fighter with quick hands, not fast. He is a lateral defender who relies on those attributes in the ring. To me, his reflexes have slowed enough for Cotto to win the fight. He can box with Floyd, he's stronger than Floyd, and he has better legs than Floyd. Do you know what that adds up to? GREAT FIGHT! I cannot wait! Furthermore, Cotto is the champion here. His work-rate is excellent and Floyd's work-rate is poor. Cotto is an A-level fighter with more left than bogus fans will admit. All he has to do is out-activity Floyd and he will win the fight on points. If Floyd tries this aggressive walk me down style like he did Ortiz, thinking Cotto is past it, he will get hurt. It's a very interesting fight. And don't forget, Floyd is 35 and a part-time fighter. He's in serious jeopardy in this fight.

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by Reloaded View Post
                  He will not be heavier , boxing is about weight , and weight is substance and mass , Mike Tyson was the same height difference to Floyd that Floyd is to Cotto .
                  I realize there is more to size than just the height advantage lol. Shane Mosley was taller and everyone thought he was gonna be the bigger man, but come fight night, they said Floyd appeared to be the bigger man. Judging by the press conference today, Floyd appears to have put on some mass and is looking pretty dang bugg and big.

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by GOD-FR33 View Post
                    "Floyd's defense and movement"

                    Floyd is a reflex fighter with quick hands, not fast. He is a lateral defender who relies on those attributes in the ring. To me, his reflexes have slowed enough for Cotto to win the fight. He can box with Floyd, he's stronger than Floyd, and he has better legs than Floyd. Do you know what that adds up to? GREAT FIGHT! I cannot wait! Furthermore, Cotto is the champion here. His work-rate is excellent and Floyd's work-rate is poor. Cotto is an A-level fighter with more left than bogus fans will admit. All he has to do is out-activity Floyd and he will win the fight on points. If Floyd tries this aggressive walk me down style like he did Ortiz, thinking Cotto is past it, he will get hurt. It's a very interesting fight. And don't forget, Floyd is 35 and a part-time fighter. He's in serious jeopardy in this fight.
                    This will be a "GREAT fight" ONLY and IF Cotto fights smart.

                    If Cotto can keep his head and not get frustrated, then he has a chance of really making a fight out of it. But Cotto has a history of returning fire, when he gets caught with a good shot and he will get caught good and clean throughout the fight.

                    If he loses his head "The red mist comes down" like the British commentators say -- it is over, because that is what Floyd feeds on ... out of control opponents who have become desperate.

                    So, its up to Cotto to make or break this fight.

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by Master CHeef View Post
                      I realize there is more to size than just the height advantage lol. Shane Mosley was taller and everyone thought he was gonna be the bigger man, but come fight night, they said Floyd appeared to be the bigger man. Judging by the press conference today, Floyd appears to have put on some mass and is looking pretty dang bugg and big.
                      Thats the thing is as you said APPEAR , you cant look at a guy in a picture and say he is such and such weight you must see him in the flesh and then have him beside something you know the weight off , some flyweights can look like heavys in pictures , the actual weight tells another story .

                      Floyd weighed 150 against ODH and stepped in at 148 , Ive never seen anywhere in Floyds whole career where he has weighed more than 155 even walking around not fighting , its all opinion from people that want him to be a monster so they can try and take some shine of him for being as good as he is , show me a legit referenced weight on Floyd above 155 .

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