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  • Reloaded
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    #121
    Originally posted by ADP02
    My question is pointless because you are just following whatever Floyd feeds you, unfortunately. I on the other hand said it even before I heard that Cotto wasn't fighting Manny that I didn't want to see that fight because Manny already took care of Cotto and most knowledgeable boxing fans know that even if Cotto came in at his "normal" weight, he would still lose .... Cotto's prior fight, he came in at 146 while with Manny he came in at 145.

    Cotto never said he was drained .... only Floyd said that .... like as if Floyd knew.

    So my question of Cotto not being impressive is irrelevant? Cool story.
    Cotto had to show me more to make me think that someone like Floyd or Manny should take on a Cotto at this point in time.

    For you and Floyd, it's awesome because "Cotto is comfortable at 154" .... even though the rest of us know that he wanted to fight Margarito at 150!!!! lol!
    You know SFA about weight lol you only see a number a pound at the wrong end can kill you , and Manny wanted 147 not 150 so your point is mute anyway , Cotto could not make 147 today , it would be worse than having to make the 145 he killed himself to make last time , bottom line Pac thinks he cant beat the man unless he drains him thats obvious !

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    • kiaba360
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      #122
      The size will play a small role, but it won't be the deciding factor. What will make or break Cotto is if he can stay motivated for the entire 12 rounds, even when Floyd starts out-maneuvering and countering him. If he loses his will and fire, then Floyd is gonna have his way and dominate him.

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      • ADP02
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        #123
        Originally posted by littlemac
        Cotto showed Manny enough for Manny to duck him with out a CW!!! That's what matters and the reality and not what you cheerleaders think or believe. Manny has the last words on you paclanders. Manny's actions to duck Cotto because of a CW speaks louder then your pom poms!!!
        The reality is that Manny said just prior to the Margarito fight that he will go down to 147 for good .... Arum probably tried to get this fight on at a CW but Cotto had an option to fight Floyd ..... someone "new" and someone that he never lost to.

        Cotto had this option and took it .... fortunate for Manny because it would have been a joke to see a repeat performance .... nothing to prove at this point.

        Only guys like you and Reloaded believe that Manny, WHO ALREADY BEAT COTTO, is scared to fight Cotto again ..... Like I said above, Manny really doesn't want and doesn't need to stretch above 147 as he already has trouble making 147 .... plus he knows that he has other options.
        Last edited by ADP02; 05-01-2012, 10:38 PM.

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          #124
          Originally posted by Reloaded
          You know SFA about weight lol you only see a number a pound at the wrong end can kill you , and Manny wanted 147 not 150 so your point is mute anyway , Cotto could not make 147 today , it would be worse than having to make the 145 he killed himself to make last time , bottom line Pac thinks he cant beat the man unless he drains him thats obvious !
          Man, I just mentioned you in the above post! lol!

          Sure, you know about weight unless its about Manny. That's the sad part about you and your Floyd friends.

          I don't care about Manny vs Cotto at any weight. I already saw that movie before. Cotto has NOT shown me since then that he has all of a sudden gotten better or is so impressive. Yet, I consistently see you and your Floyd friends bring up this "Cotto feels comfortable at 154" BS.

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          • Reloaded
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            #125
            Originally posted by ADP02
            The reality is that Manny said just prior to the Margarito fight that he will go down to 147 for good .... Arum probably tried to get this fight on at a CW but Cotto had an option to fight Floyd ..... someone "new" and someone that he never lost to.

            Cotto had this option and took it .... fortunate for Manny because it would have been a joke to see a repeat performance .... nothing to prove at this point.

            Only guys like you and Reloaded believe that Manny, WHO ALREADY BEAT COTTO, is scared to fight Cotto again ..... Like I said above, Manny really doesn't want and doesn't need to stretch above 147 as he already has trouble making 147 .... plus he knows that he has already options.
            Heaps to prove , like do you NEED a CW to win !

            Have you ever asked yourself why Pac WILL NOT fight Cotto without a CW ? its the only reason Pac is now fighting Bradley and not Cotto !

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            • littlemac
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              #126
              Originally posted by ADP02
              The reality is that Manny said just prior to the Margarito fight that he will go down to 147 for good .... Arum probably tried to get this fight on at a CW but Cotto had an option to fight Floyd ..... someone "new" and someone that he never lost to.

              Cotto had this option and took it .... fortunate for Manny because it would have been a joke to see a repeat performance .... nothing to prove at this point.

              Only guys like you and Reloaded believe that Manny, WHO ALREADY BEAT COTTO, is scared to fight Cotto again ..... Like I said above, Manny really doesn't want and doesn't need to stretch above 147 as he already has trouble making 147 .... plus he knows that he has other options.
              GTFO!!! Why you cheerleaders keep trying to change history. Even Jinke conformed that Manny wanted Cotto as his first choice so GTFO that it was Arum!! Say what you want and dance with those pom poms all you want. Manny had Cotto as his first option and folded after Cotto refused the CW!! If Cotto had agreed to the CW, Manny would have fought Cotto so GTFO.

              FACT:MANNY DUCKED COTTO BECAUSE OF A CW AFTER WANTING TO FIGHT HIM IN THE FIRST PLACE!!!

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                #127
                Originally posted by Reloaded
                Heaps to prove , like do you NEED a CW to win !

                Have you ever asked yourself why Pac WILL NOT fight Cotto without a CW ? its the only reason Pac is now fighting Bradley and not Cotto !
                He can't because it will go against what he has invested so heartily. So he invades from the reality that Manny actually ducked Cotto because of a CW, to Manny don't need to fight Cotto cause he already beat him

                So basically you ask them why did Manny refuse to fight Cotto with out a CW after wanting to fight him in the first place?

                These cheerleaders answers with " Manny already beat Cotto, Manny don't need to fight him".

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                • ADP02
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                  #128
                  Originally posted by littlemac
                  GTFO!!! Why you cheerleaders keep trying to change history. Even Jinke conformed that Manny wanted Cotto as his first choice so GTFO that it was Arum!! Say what you want and dance with those pom poms all you want. Manny had Cotto as his first option and folded after Cotto refused the CW!! If Cotto had agreed to the CW, Manny would have fought Cotto so GTFO.

                  FACT:MANNY DUCKED COTTO BECAUSE OF A CW AFTER WANTING TO FIGHT HIM IN THE FIRST PLACE!!!

                  Wrong .... first choice was Floyd but Floyd wanted all the PPV money (ie. roadblock)

                  I wasn't trying to say that it was Arum not Manny .... I was getting at: Manny can't go up to 154 and doesn't want to for one and that he wants to stay at 147. If he were to try to go back up just to make a fight, of course he would ask for a CW as he can barely make 147.

                  you guys can only understand about "weight" problems when it doesn't have to do with Manny.

                  By the way, Floyd has had many come in OVER there career fighting weight .... You think Marquez felt "comfortable" fighting at 146, a CW when he was 2 fights away from fighting at 130?

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                  • ADP02
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                    #129
                    Originally posted by Reloaded
                    Heaps to prove , like do you NEED a CW to win !

                    Have you ever asked yourself why Pac WILL NOT fight Cotto without a CW ? its the only reason Pac is now fighting Bradley and not Cotto !
                    Originally posted by littlemac
                    He can't because it will go against what he has invested so heartily. So he invades from the reality that Manny actually ducked Cotto because of a CW, to Manny don't need to fight Cotto cause he already beat him

                    So basically you ask them why did Manny refuse to fight Cotto with out a CW after wanting to fight him in the first place?

                    These cheerleaders answers with " Manny already beat Cotto, Manny don't need to fight him".

                    Most knowledgeable boxing fans know the answer to this but I guess that you don't fit the bill!

                    When Manny fought against Cotto the first time, Manny fought a true WW for the first time and Manny had yet to make 147 and even now, has never weighed in at the full WW limit. I personally wished it was 147 but it wasn't but I see why it was made at 145, unlike some people ... but ever since that fight, Manny has never asked for a CW at 147 and has given up size in just about every fight.

                    Now, Manny has never fought at 154 and like I already said before, Manny has even trouble making 147 yet you ask, why a CW? Cotto, who holds a title and has already fought at 154 asked to fight Margarito at 150. Yes a CW .... so again, having that fight at a CW was not so hard to see since even Cotto was OK with 150.


                    Manny had other options. So did Cotto ..... trust me, we are missing NOTHING! ....yet you guys keep on saying that same BS excuse just to protect your hero, Floyd! "but Floyd is fighting Cotto at his BS comfortable weight" .... "oh, that is so impressive"

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                    • littlemac
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                      #130
                      Originally posted by ADP02
                      Wrong .... first choice was Floyd but Floyd wanted all the PPV money (ie. roadblock)

                      I wasn't trying to say that it was Arum not Manny .... I was getting at: Manny can't go up to 154 and doesn't want to for one and that he wants to stay at 147. If he were to try to go back up just to make a fight, of course he would ask for a CW as he can barely make 147.

                      you guys can only understand about "weight" problems when it doesn't have to do with Manny.

                      By the way, Floyd has had many come in OVER there career fighting weight .... You think Marquez felt "comfortable" fighting at 146, a CW when he was 2 fights away from fighting at 130?
                      Thank you thats why he ducked Cotto. Cotto would be too strong for Manny thats why Manny ducked him. Am glad you finally came to your senses as to why Manny won't fight a full hydrated Cotto. Its cool we still have other fighters that don't need to handicap their opponents by draining them cause there too strong.

                      Floyd will probably be with in couple pounds from what Manny will be weighing against Bradley, in his(Floyd's) fight with Cotto at a full 154 weight class!

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