Two Of The Most Controversial Judges In Boxing Will Be Scoring Mayweather vs Cotto

[JK1700]

Well now I'm worried that IF it goes to the scorecards (which I seriously doubt) there could be some bull**** controversial decision.

Looking at how Cotto has looked recently, and how Mayweather has looked recently, I find it very hard to imagine Cotto lasting the 12 rounds. He got hit a lot by Margarito who is extremely slow and very predictable. Margarito is quite possibly the slowest and most predictable fighter in boxing and he was able to hit Cotto a lot, so what do you think Mayweather, the sharpest, smartest and most accurate fighter in the sport, is going to do to him? Not to mention that Mayweather is perhaps also the greatest defensive fighter ever? It's really not going to be competitive and I can't see how anyone would think that it is going to be. It's not because Cotto is not a very good boxer, rather because Mayweather is so far ahead of the competition that him against pretty much anyone is a mismatch. Cotto has zero advantages in this fight. His size isn't one.

I see Cotto getting beaten very badly. I think this fight is going to look similar to the Arturo Gatti fight, except I think Cotto will be somewhat competitive in the early rounds and hold his own a little bit (he might even win a round or two), but Floyd is going to break him down more and more each round, mentally and physically, and by the middle and late rounds I think Cotto is just going to be getting pumelled and hit completely at will. He's going to be getting hit a lot and won't be able to hit anything in return, which will frustrate him, and this will result in him making mistakes which will result in him taking even more punishment. Miguel Cotto also doesn't strike me as the strongest fighter mentally. I think his will is very breakable. I don't think that he is going to be able to withstand Floyd's offence considering how he has been fighting recently.

People try to use the weight as an excuse for why Cotto won't get stopped but the reality is that he's not a natural 154lber, he's just a lazy WW who moved up, and Floyd will be taller, have a longer reach and will probably also be physically stronger come fight night. I think Cotto is going to end up taking 2-3-4 punches for each one he lands and I see him getting stopped between rounds 6 and 10. The main point of me making this thread was to point out some of the crazy scorecards that these judges have, I think they should be held more accountable than they are. They get away with some terrible verdicts and when you have had as many controversial scorecards as Patricia Morse Jarman has had, theres no way in hell that you should be allowed to judge a fight of this magnitude.

[Leohappy]

well there's no right or wrong way to score a fight in pro boxing, since the scoring criteria is not objective like in the amateurs.
you can find relatively few fights where people would 100% agree on all the scores, that's probably why these judges are still allowed to score. that's also why you have 3 judges and various types of decisions... all done in hopes of reducing mistakes. it is horrible however, when all 3 judges fail to find the right winner.

[-PBP-]

If this fight has a controversial decision there would be an immediate rematch. Both fighters are making good money with this fight and a rematch would probably do better.

[4Corners]

I gave Judah 2 rounds against Floyd and they were 2 of the first 4.

[Leohappy]

If this fight has a controversial decision there would be an immediate rematch. Both fighters are making good money with this fight and a rematch would probably do better.

this fight is 100% money. i don't think either boxer cares much about the titles at this point.

[JK1700]

Third judge also has one questionable scorecard on his resume, he scored Demetrius Hopkins - Steve Forbes fight very wide for Hopkins in match that most people thought Forbes won and it was really close.
Those are scorecards that I didn't like from Moretti:
(De la Hoya - Sturm 115:113 De la Hoya)
(Hopkins Wright 117:111 Hopkins)
(De Leon - Penalosa 120:108 De Leon)
(Holyfield – Ruiz I 114:113 Holyfield)
(Ruiz – Johnson 86:83 Ruiz before stoppage)

And those are scorecards that I didn't like from Jarman:
(Campillo - Shumenov II 117:111 Shumenov)
(Vargas - De la Hoya 97:94 Vargas till stoppage)
Her scorecards for Judah - Pineda and MArquez - Barrera were actually perfectly legit (Damn it's ridiculous how HBO changed peoples perception on scoring in Barreras fight with their hype, He was clearly HBO favorite).
As for Jarman, Floyd may be little worried, as he doesn't seem to be the best judge in the world, but as you see from Moretti, he's the guy that will score fights for guys that "suppose to win", so if someone should be worried about him, it's rather Cotto.
Generally I don't believe Floyd may be robbed. Cotto's free agent, Floyd has huge company behind him, it's surreal to me.

Damn. I can't believe that I forgot about Hopkins-Wright, that was a really terrible decision, it could easily have been scored a draw or even a win for Wright. Hopkins spent more time headbutting and clinching in that fight than he did actually boxing, while Wright outlanded him. The only person who did a worse job than the judges was the referee. I honestly feel that Hopkins should have been disqualified in that fight. He deliberately butted Winky at least 5 times and to call his clinching "excessive" would have been a gross understatement.

I know that you don't like Barrera, but come on bro, that fight with Marquez was the classic 6-6 or 7-5 bout. Either guy could have gotten the decision, or it could have been ruled a draw and nobody would have complained. However, having Marquez winning by 5 points is wide of the mark. I don't think Floyd is going to leave any doubt and i'm not really worried because i'm expecting him to completely outclass Cotto in a very dominant performance. However, I never feel comfortable trusting people with a shady past like Jarman and Moretti.

[4Corners]

Third judge also has one questionable scorecard on his resume, he scored Demetrius Hopkins - Steve Forbes fight very wide for Hopkins in match that most people thought Forbes won and it was really close.
Those are scorecards that I didn't like from Moretti:
(De la Hoya - Sturm 115:113 De la Hoya)
(Hopkins Wright 117:111 Hopkins)
(De Leon - Penalosa 120:108 De Leon)
(Holyfield – Ruiz I 114:113 Holyfield)
(Ruiz – Johnson 86:83 Ruiz before stoppage)

And those are scorecards that I didn't like from Jarman:
(Campillo - Shumenov II 117:111 Shumenov)
(Vargas - De la Hoya 97:94 Vargas till stoppage)
Her scorecards for Judah - Pineda and MArquez - Barrera were actually perfectly legit (Damn it's ridiculous how HBO changed peoples perception on scoring in Barreras fight with their hype, He was clearly HBO favorite).
As for Jarman, Floyd may be little worried, as he doesn't seem to be the best judge in the world, but as you see from Moretti, he's the guy that will score fights for guys that "suppose to win", so if someone should be worried about him, it's rather Cotto.
Generally I don't believe Floyd may be robbed. Cotto's free agent, Floyd has huge company behind him, it's surreal to me.

Could not believe the Wright-Hopkins score, that was a pretty close fight, definitely not as wide as the scores portrayed.

[Da Boxer]

Are you Gentleman rehearsing the excuses just in case PBF were to lose a decision to Cotto?

[4Corners]

Are you Gentleman rehearsing the excuses just in case PBF were to lose a decision to Cotto?

It'll be funny when you aren't seen or heard from in months after Cotto gets his a$$ handed to him.

[JK1700]

I'll never agree on that, HBO team were always so biased on Barrera. He got a gift against Juarez in the first fight and they were like nothing happend.
Then the rematch with Rocky was also very close fight that I thought he lost as well and they were just talking this bull**** that Barrera is one of the greatest that ever lived and he fought like Ali. Laugh My ****ing Ass Out.
Barrera landed plenty of Marquez, but Marquez was putting his punches together and landed more. He won it clearly and I'm glad judges had more senses than Lampley, Merchant and LAdderman that night.

lol. I don't remember them comparing him to Ali, but i'll give you the benefit of the doubt about the commentators. Maybe if I watched that fight again but without the commentary, I might have Marquez winning, I can't remember if I watched it with the commentary or not, but the HBO team really can and do sway people a lot with their cheerleading and bias. The first Juarez fight couldve gone either way, but I didn't think the rematch was close at all. Different people, different opinions I guess. You'd be hard pressed to find anyone who thinks that Shumenov beat Campillo or that De La Hoya beat Sturm though. Those were clear robberies and there's no reason why the judges for those fights shouldn't have been suspended. I guess it has a lot to do with the promoters. If you have a big promoter and you get robbed, you can and probably will get the judges suspended like Golden Boy did with Lara-Williams, but if you get robbed and don't have a big promoter (Like Sturm against De La Hoya), nothing will happen.