Career Advice

[Rockin']

Amateurs are only 3 rounds though, and his fights may have also been 2-minute rounds, not sure at that level. Regardless, that's not a lot of time to adjust to a basically unknown opponent. Plus he had some serious ring rust.

LMAO, 2 minutes is more than enough time to see what you need to see if you know how to work it. but this guy obviously doesn't know how to work it. On top of that instead of fighting for only 6 minutes he would be required to fight for atleast 12 minutes. The Meat Wagons always rollin, just make sure that he has gas money when they come to pick him up for the fights. The Meat Wagon will deliver him from his door step to the fights and back because it is very likely that he will be coherent enough to drive a vehicle home after the bout. But hey, good luck to him...........Rockin'

[JAB5239]

by his words I had taken it as he wants to turn pro now. aswell fighting in the nationals as a junior is great but 10 years later with nothing inbetween is going to make his climb a steep and treturous one. He hasn't even had an open bout yet. He should enter himself into the PAL National if it's still rolling. Win that tournament and you might have a chance with the pros. When I fought there I encountered somebody similar to you, he had some how won his preliminary bout and we met in the semis. While I will give him credit for finishing the fight he took a horrible beating. Once I saw that he had a chin I just coasted trying to conserve my energy for the next fight the following day. Skill wise he just couldn't measure up, he simply lacked experience. Maybe this guy here can measure up but it's very unlikely. Jumping to the pros immediately will most likely get him hurt. If he can't even beat the amatuers whats he even thinking of the pro game for?.......Rokin'

I think it depends on whether he is fed to the wolves or not. I've known many pros who had decent success but weren't outstanding amateurs at the national level. At 25 I would work a steady diet of stiffs and guys who's amateur success never translated from the ams and build myself of. You gotta remember bro, not everyone is fighting the level of fighters you so often worked with and he could catch on with a smaller promotional company such as CES to see if he could developed. See someone like Vladine Biosse as an example. He may never be a world champ, but he's having a fairly successful pro career thusfar with little amateur experience. Tommy Galipeau who I use to spar almost daily got himself an NABF or USBA ranking was on his way to a successful career till he got hooked on the pipe is another.

[Rockin']

okay buddy, only someone who is undefeated in amateurs should bother trying to be a pro

just because you're a bitter old man doesn't mean you should be crapping on everyone else's dreams

You see, guys like you are CLUELESS as to how violent and damaging the pro fights can be, especially for somebody in his position.

But hey, he should really just say **** it and just go for it man. He has a dream man, why knock it? I hope that the $1000 he makes for his first five pro bouts will cover all of his medical exdpenses or time missed from work. Professional boxing is not a game, a movie or a video game. The ****s real life and there can be serious cosequences for a lamb who blindly wanders into a wolves den...........Rockin'

[JAB5239]

okay buddy, only someone who is undefeated in amateurs should bother trying to be a pro

just because you're a bitter old man doesn't mean you should be crapping on everyone else's dreams

And at the same time someone who has actually been there should have his opinion respected if not agreed with. His words are from experience, and while I may not agree on this particular argument his opinion carriers weight. Take the trolling somewhere else, ok?

[Rockin']

I think it depends on whether he is fed to the wolves or not. I've known many pros who had decent success but weren't outstanding amateurs at the national level. At 25 I would work a steady diet of stiffs and guys who's amateur success never translated from the ams and build myself of. You gotta remember bro, not everyone is fighting the level of fighters you so often worked with and he could catch on with a smaller promotional company such as CES to see if he could developed. See someone like Vladine Biosse as an example. He may never be a world champ, but he's having a fairly successful pro career thusfar with little amateur experience. Tommy Galipeau who I use to spar almost daily got himself an NABF or USBA ranking was on his way to a successful career till he got hooked on the pipe is another.

It costs money to bring in the stiffs to get knocked out. Who would pay money to bring in stiffs for this guy when the stiff is actually probably himself.

I understand what they bring in for the local shows and I know what they bring in for the televised bouts, I did both. NOBODY is going to invest in a 25 year old who hadn't fought in 10 years and lost his last amatuer bout. If the guy turns pro tomorrow and fights any time soon in the pro ring he is probably going to be in for some trouble. Just tell me one promoter who would even get close to thinking about investing in a fighter with his credentials, you won't find one. Go out and atleast fight in the Open class at the PAL National before turning pro. If he doesn't get stopped in any of those bouts then I would say fine turn pro, still wouldn't recommend it but if he had to then fine. 'Til then he's simply dreaming. Just real talk.........Rockin'

[JAB5239]

It costs money to bring in the stiffs to get knocked out. Who would pay money to bring in stiffs for this guy when the stiff is actually probably himself.

I understand what they bring in for the local shows and I know what they bring in for the televised bouts, I did both. NOBODY is going to invest in a 25 year old who hadn't fought in 10 years and lost his last amatuer bout. If the guy turns pro tomorrow and fights any time soon in the pro ring he is probably going to be in for some trouble. Just tell me one promoter who would even get close to thinking about investing in a fighter with his credentials, you won't find one. Go out and atleast fight in the Open class at the PAL National before turning pro. If he doesn't get stopped in any of those bouts then I would say fine turn pro, still wouldn't recommend it but if he had to then fine. 'Til then he's just simply dreaming. Just real talk.........Rockin'

I think its more logical to see him fight and then ask the question of who would take a chance on his. Does his style translate? Is the rust removable and the potential there? If he has the raw capabilities to improve most small outfits would sign him. We've both seen guys that were pro that had no business putting gloves on in their backyard let alone being paid for it. If the underlying potential is there I'd go for it. He would be matched according to his ability by most respectable promoters. That's the way it was always done in the New England area anyway. After a few fights he either improves or he doesn't and will know if he has what it takes to move up.

[Rockin']

I think its more logical to see him fight and then ask the question of who would take a chance on his. Does his style translate? Is the rust removable and the potential there? If he has the raw capabilities to improve most small outfits would sign him. We've both seen guys that were pro that had no business putting gloves on in their backyard let alone being paid for it. If the underlying potential is there I'd go for it. He would be matched according to his ability by most respectable promoters. That's the way it was always done in the New England area anyway. After a few fights he either improves or he doesn't and will know if he has what it takes to move up.

It's no skin off of my nose if he succeeds or gets hurt in there, turn him pro. opponents like the one that charlie zelenoff showed off his skills against are few compared to the number that can fight.......Rockin'

[squealpiggy]

dude, you just lost to an akward amatuer and now you're talking about wanting to turn pro? Gas is not cheap to be driven to the fights in the Meat Wagon these days. Beat some amatuers and then maybe come back with this question again..........Rockin'

yeah you can't lose in the amateurs then expect to have a glittering professional career like Rockin'!

[Rockin']

yeah you can't lose in the amateurs then expect to have a glittering professional career like Rockin'!

never said that my career glittered, and I had many more years experience than this guy when making the transition.

you've really turned into a genuine piece of **** squeal piggy, thankyou for your snide remark........Rockin'

[#1Assassin]

rockin' is right.

if he turns pro now he wont find anyone willing to invest in him, he will either be an oponent or a nobody. that means working your way up fighting guys with more experience, taking fights on short notice and all that. there will be no adjustment period, no soft touch.

considering that he just lost in the ams my guess it wouldnt take long before he took an L in the pros or even got hurt, and then the chance of someone investing in him is even smaller.

im not saying he should wait around for the olympics in 2016, but turning pro now is downright ******. think about it.. hes been out of the ring 10 years, lost his last fight bcuz he dont have any recent experience and couldnt cope with an oponents style. how is that the time to turn pro? the styles arent gonna be easier to cope with and he will have to adjust to the pro ranks when he hasnt even adjusted to being back in the ring yet.

start a short amateur campaign. could be as short as 6 months but it will get you back where you need to be, you cant shake off 10 years of innactivity in one fight. have atleats 4 or 5 fights in the ams, get used to being a fighter again, not just for one fight but living that lifestyle for several months. look at your performances and then ask this question again.