Floyd Open To More Fights At 154 or Higher?

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    #61
    Originally posted by boliodogs
    Cotto called for 150 as I explained so try reading carefully. I hate catchweights so please don't put words in my mouth that I never said. I am just sick of Floyd bragging that he is so fearless fighting Cotto at his best weight when he knows Cotto and him are the same size and he expects to win easily. If he fights a big jr. middleweight like Matinez or Canelo at 154 then brag.



    WBA junior middleweight champion, Miguel Cotto, has made it clear that he won't fight Manny Pacquiao at the welterweight limit of 147-pounds, where Pacquiao holds the WBO title. When the two boxers fought in 2009, a catch-weight of 145-pounds was mandatory in reaching the deal. Cotto was stopped in the twelfth round of that fight. For the rematch, which has a tentative date of June 9th in Las Vegas, Pacquiao refuses to fight Cotto above 147. This time around, Cotto will not give in. Pacquiao has to fight him at comfortable weight limit.


    WBA junior middleweight champion Miguel Cotto is counting the numbers on the check. Puerto Rico's biggest star told Raul Alzaga that his final decision, regarding his next opponent, will be determined by money. Cotto and members of his team are evaluating two possible scenarios - a fight with Floyd Mayweather Jr. on May 5th at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, or a rematch with Manny Pacquiao on June 9th - also in Las Vegas.


    Now shut the **** up

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    • tredh
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      #62
      Originally posted by EngorgedW/Blood
      You don't have to be. But when you talk about "one of the best" today, you at least have to be a legit top 5 guy in your division. I don't even think Cotto would be top 5 if he actually starts fighting the rest of the top 10 JMW's. He would not beat Lara, he would not beat Williams, he would not beat Molina, Kirkland, he doesn't beat Martinez if Martinez comes down to 154. I doubt the current Cotto even beats Alvarez. Cotto is a bottom 10 JMW. He's not one of the best.
      Come on man you can't be serious with how bad you dogging Cotto right now. Cotto can beat Kirkland and Williams. Those are two fighters who have absolutely no skill or ring intelligence and I see Cotto beating them for sure. I think Cotto can beat Canelo Alvarez as well, what has he done or shown that makes you feel he can beat Cotto? We both know Cotto is not prime like he says he is but still to say he can't beat Kirkland, Williams and Alvarez is just wrong IMO. Hell Williams is done IMO that dude just takes punishment(funny he is called the Punisher) and drained his own body to take punishment which made it pile up even worse.

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        #63
        Originally posted by tredh
        Come on man you can't be serious with how bad you dogging Cotto right now. Cotto can beat Kirkland and Williams. Those are two fighters who have absolutely no skill or ring intelligence and I see Cotto beating them for sure. I think Cotto can beat Canelo Alvarez as well, what has he done or shown that makes you feel he can beat Cotto? We both know Cotto is not prime like he says he is but still to say he can't beat Kirkland, Williams and Alvarez is just wrong IMO. Hell Williams is done IMO that dude just takes punishment(funny he is called the Punisher) and drained his own body to take punishment which made it pile up even worse.
        Agreed, saying Cotto "can't" beat Molina, Kirkland, Lara, Williams, Alvarez with absolutely certainty is pretty dull headed.

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        • DLT
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          #64
          Originally posted by boliodogs
          I think Pac is a 4 to 1 favorite over Bradley. I don't look at things one way and I never said a word about Pac, you did. I was talking about Floyd because he is the subject of this thread but you wrongly assumed I was comparing him to Pac.Since you dragged Pac into it I'll answer your questions. Pac fighting Bradley won't silence his critics either but the difference is Pac never said it would. A ton of guys Floyd beat first? Last time I checked it was 3 guys. Floyd is the one who made a huge deal about it and started the term leftovers and trash the hell out of Pac over it. I have never heard Pac call anyone a leftover. Now he is fighting a Pac "leftover" by his own standard is he not?. Now your trashing Pac for fighting the great EM. 7 years ago when I never even said Pac's name. You seem a little desparate to trash Pac when he isn't even the topic. Every fighter that ever lost a fight is somebodies leftover. It's a really ****** term. Maybe that's why Pac picked Bradley. At least he won't hear that leftover BS.
          You did say a word about Pac. The reason I brought up his name is because it was you that said "a guy that Pac destroyed". Why not a guy that Margarito destroyed, which was before Pac and what most think damaged Cotto the most? Floyd beat 4 guys 1st if you count JMM. Why would he fight him again after Floyd shut him out, e****ally at a weight that everyone said looked way too big for JMM?

          Now, I never said anything bad about Pac. Im not one of those Floyd fans who diss Pac. I think Pac is a beast and will run through Bradley in 5 or 6 rounds. Also in Floyd's defense I will say that I dont truly consider the guys he fought after Floyd leftovers but you could argue in moreso on the merits of Oscar only had 1 fight in between and he looked like crap at 150. Hatton had 2 fights in between and looked like crap in one of them.

          Mosley only had 1 fight in between which was a draw against a garbage fighter in Mora. JMM had 2 (real) solid fights in between but that was at LW and they were going to fight at 143. I think you could argue that Cotto has had 3 fights since Pac, all at 154 (basically), and is looking better with the new trainer.

          I personally am in the minority. I think boxers get too hard of a rap and expectations can be somewhat unrealistic. I truly have no problem with the Cotto or Bradley fights. I wanna see them both. After that I wouldnt even go crazy if Floyd fought Canelo while Pac fought someone like the Ortiz-Berto winner but after that they need to fight or Floyd needs to fight Sergio

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          • boliodogs
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            #65
            Originally posted by -§unny-
            http://www.boxingscene.com/pacquiao-...her-not--48907


            WBA junior middleweight champion, Miguel Cotto, has made it clear that he won't fight Manny Pacquiao at the welterweight limit of 147-pounds, where Pacquiao holds the WBO title. When the two boxers fought in 2009, a catch-weight of 145-pounds was mandatory in reaching the deal. Cotto was stopped in the twelfth round of that fight. For the rematch, which has a tentative date of June 9th in Las Vegas, Pacquiao refuses to fight Cotto above 147. This time around, Cotto will not give in. Pacquiao has to fight him at comfortable weight limit.


            WBA junior middleweight champion Miguel Cotto is counting the numbers on the check. Puerto Rico's biggest star told Raul Alzaga that his final decision, regarding his next opponent, will be determined by money. Cotto and members of his team are evaluating two possible scenarios - a fight with Floyd Mayweather Jr. on May 5th at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, or a rematch with Manny Pacquiao on June 9th - also in Las Vegas.


            Now shut the **** up
            So Floyd is fighting Cotto, who Pac KOed, at 154 because he badly needed a big money fight for may 5th. Pac turned down the Cotto fight at anything over 147 because he already KOed Cotto and did not need to bow to Cotto's terms since he had 3 other fights to choose from. I knew all about it and it has nothing to do with anything I said on this thread so now you shut the **** up. And yes I know Pac KOed Cotto at a catchweight of 145. If Cotto knew was going to be weak at 145 then why sign the contract? Is he ******?

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              #66
              Originally posted by DLT
              Question: You’re answering some of your naysayers and critics by moving up in weight to fight Cotto, one of the best in the sport today. Would you consider more fights at 154 or possibly higher?

              Mayweather: It’s no surprise that when you’re the best at what you do that you become the topic of debate. It comes with the territory. My career has been criticized and critiqued since day one. In my last fight against Victor Ortiz, people thought that he wasn’t experienced enough, yet he held a championship belt. It doesn’t matter who I fight, when I fight them or how successful I am, people will always have something to say.

              Guess what? I don’t listen to the negative. I stay positive and focused. I love a big challenge, and that is what I have in Miguel Cotto on May 5.
              Criticism has never played a role in determining what I do in the ring, and it never will. I went up in weight because I am confident that I can beat Cotto at his preferred weight or any other weight, for that matter. The fact that I’m a champion in five different weight classes proves that weight is not a factor, and I’m willing to consider more fights at 154 or heavier if I believe that it is the next best move for me.

              After the Cotto fight, whatever is the next best option for me, then my advisers Al Haymon and Leonard Ellerbe will negotiate and make that happen. I have accomplished great things in my boxing career and will continue to look for the best fighters available to fight.

              For every critic that I silence, there will be another one out there to come up with something to discredit my success and my legacy. All I can do is stay focused on my May 5 fight against Miguel Cotto and look at it as yet another opportunity to prove the naysayers wrong. I am going to show, once again, that I am the best fighter in the world today. I will silence the critics — even if it is just for one night!
              Julio Cesar Chavez Jr

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              • DLT
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                #67
                Originally posted by erislandylara
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                I wouldnt mind seeing it. Still would want to see Sergio at some point though but Ill take Chavez for now

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                • TheSpecial
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                  #68
                  Lol I won't mind seeing Floyd fight Seth Mitchell

                  lol

                  that will be harilous

                  I know it's talking out of my ass but I just had that vision lol

                  of Floyd vs Seth Mitchell. Like It's trolling I know but just close your eyes

                  and imagine

                  Floyd vs Mitchell

                  I see Seth mitchell landing one jab and Floyd doing the zab judah chicken dance lol

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by boliodogs
                    So Floyd is fighting Cotto, who Pac KOed, at 154 because he badly needed a big money fight for may 5th. Pac turned down the Cotto fight at anything over 147 because he already KOed Cotto and did not need to bow to Cotto's terms since he had 3 other fights to choose from. I knew all about it and it has nothing to do with anything I said on this thread so now you shut the **** up. And yes I know Pac KOed Cotto at a catchweight of 145. If Cotto knew was going to be weak at 145 then why sign the contract? Is he ******?
                    How has it got nothing to do with what you said ? You said about the weight Cotto is comfortable at, and I gave you 3 links of which he is saying he is comfortable at 154 but he could've gone down to 150 to fight your boy the infamous catchweight king. Either you didn't get the point or you are not very clever.

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by leppard365
                      "For every critic that I silence, there will be another one out there to come up with something to discredit my success and my legacy"

                      what a great quote.


                      At 4:50, Kellerman asks Cotto about Floyd's fight with Ortiz:

                      Cotto responds: "The inexperience of Victor killed him, you know ...."

                      and Floyd was there to hear Cotto say that .... no response from Floyd ... Seems like Cotto was able to silence Floyd's BS!!!

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