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  • Dirk Diggler UK
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    #51
    Originally posted by turbotime
    Just because you're not P4P doesn't mean you're not one of the best. Cotto is still a top fighter
    And yet you just said everyone from 147-154 is a "no hoper"

    Get off Floyd's **** for two seconds please

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      #52
      Originally posted by DLT
      how big of a favorite is Pac against Bradley and how much silencing did he do when he was fighting a ton of guys after Floyd had aloready beat them or EM after Raheem had shut him out? Cant look at things one way
      I think Pac is a 4 to 1 favorite over Bradley. I don't look at things one way and I never said a word about Pac, you did. I was talking about Floyd because he is the subject of this thread but you wrongly assumed I was comparing him to Pac.Since you dragged Pac into it I'll answer your questions. Pac fighting Bradley won't silence his critics either but the difference is Pac never said it would. A ton of guys Floyd beat first? Last time I checked it was 3 guys. Floyd is the one who made a huge deal about it and started the term leftovers and trash the hell out of Pac over it. I have never heard Pac call anyone a leftover. Now he is fighting a Pac "leftover" by his own standard is he not?. Now your trashing Pac for fighting the great EM. 7 years ago when I never even said Pac's name. You seem a little desparate to trash Pac when he isn't even the topic. Every fighter that ever lost a fight is somebodies leftover. It's a really ****** term. Maybe that's why Pac picked Bradley. At least he won't hear that leftover BS.

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      • turbotime
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        #53
        Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
        And yet you just said everyone from 147-154 is a "no hoper"

        Get off Floyd's **** for two seconds please
        It's not Floyd's fault he is head and shoulders above the divisions. Still doesn't mean these fighters aren't good.

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          #54
          Originally posted by turbotime
          Just because you're not P4P doesn't mean you're not one of the best. Cotto is still a top fighter
          Floyd has fought the best in divisions but has yet to fight a great fighter. Hatton and and JMM were great fighters but he bloated them up to divisions they didnt look good in let alone great in.

          Cotto isnt one of the best fighters in the world yet he might be one of the best of his division. But thats no problem for floyd as he is not known for actively seeking the best to fight.
          Last edited by hugh grant; 04-20-2012, 12:47 PM.

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            #55
            Originally posted by DLT
            how big of a favorite is Pac against Bradley and how much silencing did he do when he was fighting a ton of guys after Floyd had aloready beat them or EM after Raheem had shut him out? Cant look at things one way
            Originally posted by tredh
            Actually in articles posted Cotto has said 154 is his best and most comfortable weight and thanked PBF for fighting him at 154. I think he just wanted to make Margarito lose weight and fight at the same weight he fought Manny at. Cotto knew he could make 150 a lot easier than Margarito could.
            Yes you are right. I guess the point I am making is Cotto is a small JR middleweight or a big welterweight. He did call for 150 to get an edge on Margarito as you say. I think he is comfortable at any weight between 150 and 154. I doubt he would call for a weight he was not comfortable at just to make Margarito weak. Only Cotto knows for sure.

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              #56
              Originally posted by turbotime
              Just because you're not P4P doesn't mean you're not one of the best. Cotto is still a top fighter
              You don't have to be. But when you talk about "one of the best" today, you at least have to be a legit top 5 guy in your division. I don't even think Cotto would be top 5 if he actually starts fighting the rest of the top 10 JMW's. He would not beat Lara, he would not beat Williams, he would not beat Molina, Kirkland, he doesn't beat Martinez if Martinez comes down to 154. I doubt the current Cotto even beats Alvarez. Cotto is a bottom 10 JMW. He's not one of the best.

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                #57
                Originally posted by AlwaysOnTop
                Pac rejected a 5050 split in 09....

                HE is the reason this fight ain't happened...

                10 million for every lb over 147
                8 oz gloves
                14 day de-juice/cutoff period..............and a 5050 split............

                Damn...that's a good deal

                Cotto just admitted Mayweather WAS NEVER IN HIS PLANS and that Arum NEVER even mentioned a Floyd bout with him...

                All the while Arum was telling the media Floyd was ducking him..

                Mayweather was never in Team Pacquio's plans...

                Bob knows what he's doing..he KNOWS he doesn't have the fighters to beat FMJ....the ONLY way he wins is in the media.
                Maybe it was Pac's fault in 2009 but this 2012 and Floyd just made a joke of an offer so today it's Floyd's fault. If Floyd makes a fair offer and Arum refuses then it's back to Arum's fault. Two superstars who both have to compromise or the fight doesn't get done. That's how I see it.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by AlwaysOnTop
                  Pac rejected a 5050 split in 09....

                  HE is the reason this fight ain't happened...

                  10 million for every lb over 147
                  8 oz gloves
                  14 day de-juice/cutoff period..............and a 5050 split............

                  Damn...that's a good deal

                  Cotto just admitted Mayweather WAS NEVER IN HIS PLANS and that Arum NEVER even mentioned a Floyd bout with him...

                  All the while Arum was telling the media Floyd was ducking him..

                  Mayweather was never in Team Pacquio's plans...

                  Bob knows what he's doing..he KNOWS he doesn't have the fighters to beat FMJ....the ONLY way he wins is in the media.
                  Originally posted by -§unny-
                  WTF are you on about ? 150 is not even a weight class, its a catchweight. Fight is good at 154 for the belt. Have you not had enough already of the catchweights.
                  Cotto called for 150 as I explained so try reading carefully. I hate catchweights so please don't put words in my mouth that I never said. I am just sick of Floyd bragging that he is so fearless fighting Cotto at his best weight when he knows Cotto and him are the same size and he expects to win easily. If he fights a big jr. middleweight like Matinez or Canelo at 154 then brag.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by hugh grant
                    Floyd has fought the best in divisions but has yet to fight a great fighter. Hatton and and JMM were great fighters but he bloated them up to divisions they didnt look good in let alone great in.

                    Cotto isnt one of the best fighters in the world yet he might be one of the best of his division. But thats no problem for floyd as he is not known for actively seeking the best to fight.
                    *cough* Mosley *cough*

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by EngorgedW/Blood
                      You don't have to be. But when you talk about "one of the best" today, you at least have to be a legit top 5 guy in your division. I don't even think Cotto would be top 5 if he actually starts fighting the rest of the top 10 JMW's. He would not beat Lara, he would not beat Williams, he would not beat Molina, Kirkland, he doesn't beat Martinez if Martinez comes down to 154. I doubt the current Cotto even beats Alvarez. Cotto is a bottom 10 JMW. He's not one of the best.
                      I think the only guys giving him problems are Floyd, Lara, and Alvarez.

                      If Quintana can outbox Williams, so can Cotto. Believe that

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