Andre Ward at Mayweather's Gym today [Pics]

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  • -Spinal-
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    #31
    Originally posted by The Weebler II
    nah, Ward beats Mayweather if he's a WW unless FMJ has a ref to pull Ward off him (kinda like the ref pulled Ruiz off Jones )



    not like you to resort to ad hominem Dan. What's wrong, can't refute the point? besides I'm not the first in the thread to point out size isn't everything.




    More importantly, and I'm not sure why you've overlooked it, but Ward is an inside fighter. Maybe if Luis Pabon or Joe Cortez was reffing FMJ would have a shot otherwise Ward dominates him inside.
    P4P at 147, Floyd beats Ward.

    I know you're not to fond of Floyd, so I won't go any further arguing with you. It's pointless.

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      #32
      Originally posted by EngorgedW/Blood
      I've said it before and i'll say it again, size does not matter. I've gone in to it with a long post explaining it.


      But in this case I think Ward may beat Floyd, cause it's just not size difference, Ward is a skilled, slick, elusive, defensive fighter, not better than Floyd though. Ward's attributes will matter because of his skill, being tall, having about the same reach as Floyd, and being bigger than Floyd will all probably equal a win.


      A Julio Cesar Chavez Jr weighing 180lbs would get his ass handed to him for 12 rounds by a 150lbs Floyd Mayweather. But a 180lbs Andre Ward, would most likely beat the same 150lbs Floyd Mayweather. IMO.
      A simple way to put it is that Ward is skilled enough where Floyd's skills can't overcome Ward's size advantage

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      • Weebler I
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        #33
        Originally posted by Check
        Big difference. Those dudes are heavyweights and one punch can wreck your day. Floyd isn't going to hurt Ward. Besides, I think we all realize that Andre Ward is far more gifted than that beastly thing Valuev.
        Well Klitschko isn't short of skills. To be clear, I wasn't saying Floyd should fight Ward, just pointing out that size isn't everything like the OP inferred, skill counts for a lot more.
        Last edited by Weebler I; 04-19-2012, 03:02 PM.

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          #34
          Originally posted by reedickyaluss
          Anyone who thinks the ref had anything to do with Jones-Ruiz is an ill-competant person and cannot be trusted.
          I guess that means John Ruiz then:

          "How can I give [Jones Jr] any credit when the referee wouldn't let me fight my fight?"
          It's cool tho Ree, you have your opinion.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
            Size isn't just about height....
            Do you guys like even watch Erislandy Lara here on this site? You hinting what? The ONLY THING P WILL got on Lara in that fight was height? Dude go watch the fight. It was like a Klithscko fighting one of their many bum opponents. The difference is this time the 'bum' fought back and schooled the bigger guy.

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              #36
              Originally posted by The Weebler II
              Well Klitschko isn't short of skills. To be clear, I wasn't saying Floyd should Ward, just pointing out that size isn't everything like the OP inferred, skill counts for a lot more.
              Yeah, but size is a lot of the reason we feel the Klitschkos are dominant. This kind of shows it. A lesser size advantage for Ward and Floyd being so gifted, even Floyd couldn't pull of that feat. How do you the Klitschkos would do with even a larger advantage? The Klitschkos are successful more so because of their size than their skills.

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                #37
                Originally posted by TheSpecial
                Do you guys like even watch Erislandy Lara here on this site? You hinting what? The ONLY THING P WILL got on Lara in that fight was height? Dude go watch the fight. It was like a Klithscko fighting one of their many bum opponents. The difference is this time the 'bum' fought back and schooled the bigger guy.
                What the *** you talkin bout?

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                  #38
                  The fact that some are seriously entertaining Andre vs Floyd should let you know all about Miguel's chances on May 5th.

                  Last edited by icebergisonfire; 04-19-2012, 03:06 PM.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by The Weebler II
                    nah, Ward beats Mayweather if he's a WW unless FMJ has a ref to pull Ward off him (kinda like the ref pulled Ruiz off Jones )



                    not like you to resort to ad hominem Dan. What's wrong, can't refute the point? besides I'm not the first in the thread to point out size isn't everything.




                    More importantly, and I'm not sure why you've overlooked it, but Ward is an inside fighter. Maybe if Luis Pabon or Joe Cortez was reffing FMJ would have a shot otherwise Ward dominates him inside.
                    Of course he'd dominate him inside.

                    He's a ****ing World Class Super Middleweight.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by The Weebler II
                      I guess that means John Ruiz then:



                      It's cool tho Ree, you have your opinion.
                      Quoting the person who didn't win a round as an unbiased source.

                      L - O - effing L

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