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Top 5 Best Boxers from the Past Decade?
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I think it's ridiculous for someone to discount someone's list because it doesn't include Pac in the top 5. Contrary to popular belief, the boxing world doesn't revolve around Pac or Floyd. Pac has not fought what's considered the popular choice for best of the era in Floyd, therefore the pick defaults to Floyd. Floyd was considered top dog before Pac, and Pac hasn't beat him..so that's that. Pac has, however fought Marquez, and I was fortunate enough to watch all 3 fights, and you can attempt to call it bias, but I saw Marquez winning 2 of 3 (Keep in mind I'm not going by names on a list, I'm going by what I've ACTUALLY seen). That puts him on the list, and since he's fought Floyd..the choice is easy to rank him under Floyd. Because there were other weight classes where people were dominating, I can't put Pac in there because Pac hasn't exactly been dominating..particularly if you're comparing him to a guy on the same list, and hasn't tried to prove being above Floyd (vice versa..but we at least DO have the fact Floyd dominated Marquez). It's nothing against Pac, but he's just out by default if I really want to make a credible list that includes more than just those 3...because guys like Calderon literally dominated the ENTIRE decade.
RJJ is most likely the fighter we've all put on due to bias. Because those 3 years were absolutely amazing before he lost. It's probably best to put Calzaghe there, maybe even Hopkins..but then I can't put Hopkins over Calzaghe..so Calzaghe by default?
I also think Wlad is technically better than Vitali, but I think Vitali was more impressive..and not being knocked out a few times definitely helps that cause lol. I remember the Corrie Sanders fight like it was yesterday. Wlad was impressive, but vulnerable. Vitali has not been, and only thing that's stopped him have been injuries in fights most of us think he'd have won.
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Originally posted by NearHypnos View PostI think it's ridiculous for someone to discount someone's list because it doesn't include Pac in the top 5. Contrary to popular belief, the boxing world doesn't revolve around Pac or Floyd. Pac has not fought what's considered the popular choice for best of the era in Floyd, therefore the pick defaults to Floyd. Floyd was considered top dog before Pac, and Pac hasn't beat him..so that's that. Pac has, however fought Marquez, and I was fortunate enough to watch all 3 fights, and you can attempt to call it bias, but I saw Marquez winning 2 of 3 (Keep in mind I'm not going by names on a list, I'm going by what I've ACTUALLY seen). That puts him on the list, and since he's fought Floyd..the choice is easy to rank him under Floyd. Because there were other weight classes where people were dominating, I can't put Pac in there because Pac hasn't exactly been dominating..particularly if you're comparing him to a guy on the same list, and hasn't tried to prove being above Floyd (vice versa..but we at least DO have the fact Floyd dominated Marquez). It's nothing against Pac, but he's just out by default if I really want to make a credible list that includes more than just those 3...because guys like Calderon literally dominated the ENTIRE decade.
RJJ is most likely the fighter we've all put on due to bias. Because those 3 years were absolutely amazing before he lost. It's probably best to put Calzaghe there, maybe even Hopkins..but then I can't put Hopkins over Calzaghe..so Calzaghe by default?
I also think Wlad is technically better than Vitali, but I think Vitali was more impressive..and not being knocked out a few times definitely helps that cause lol. I remember the Corrie Sanders fight like it was yesterday. Wlad was impressive, but vulnerable. Vitali has not been, and only thing that's stopped him have been injuries in fights most of us think he'd have won.
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Originally posted by NearHypnos View PostI think it's ridiculous for someone to discount someone's list because it doesn't include Pac in the top 5. Contrary to popular belief, the boxing world doesn't revolve around Pac or Floyd. Pac has not fought what's considered the popular choice for best of the era in Floyd, therefore the pick defaults to Floyd. Floyd was considered top dog before Pac, and Pac hasn't beat him..so that's that. Pac has, however fought Marquez, and I was fortunate enough to watch all 3 fights, and you can attempt to call it bias, but I saw Marquez winning 2 of 3 (Keep in mind I'm not going by names on a list, I'm going by what I've ACTUALLY seen). That puts him on the list, and since he's fought Floyd..the choice is easy to rank him under Floyd. Because there were other weight classes where people were dominating, I can't put Pac in there because Pac hasn't exactly been dominating..particularly if you're comparing him to a guy on the same list, and hasn't tried to prove being above Floyd (vice versa..but we at least DO have the fact Floyd dominated Marquez). It's nothing against Pac, but he's just out by default if I really want to make a credible list that includes more than just those 3...because guys like Calderon literally dominated the ENTIRE decade.
RJJ is most likely the fighter we've all put on due to bias. Because those 3 years were absolutely amazing before he lost. It's probably best to put Calzaghe there, maybe even Hopkins..but then I can't put Hopkins over Calzaghe..so Calzaghe by default?
I also think Wlad is technically better than Vitali, but I think Vitali was more impressive..and not being knocked out a few times definitely helps that cause lol. I remember the Corrie Sanders fight like it was yesterday. Wlad was impressive, but vulnerable. Vitali has not been, and only thing that's stopped him have been injuries in fights most of us think he'd have won.
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Originally posted by House of Stone View Postnah mayweather, pacquiao and a klit brother are pretty much the default entries in this - and in answer to an earlier question in this thread I'd have Wlad beating Vitali now but Vitali beating Wlad a few years ago
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Originally posted by rorschach51 View PostEasy because The question was best boxer, and Manny wasn't very good (meaning from when he first came on the scene in June 2001 in his fight with Ledwaba he was all ****er with pretty much just a one-two and absolutely NO DEFENSE) technical wise till around the Diaz fight in 2008. He was only one of the best "boxers" for 2 years of that decade.
Roy Jones Jr. was still superior in 2000 all the way too late 2004 when he lost too Tarver. So that's almost 5 years of the decade for Jones Jr. versus 2 1/2 years of the decade (June 2008-2010) for Pacquiao. Jones makes the top 5 with more time as one of the best "boxers" of that decade then Manny.
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