Rios may still look drained at 140.

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  • deejd
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    #21
    Originally posted by MANIAC310
    I was just discussing this with my brother...
    Rios is definitely a welterweight
    He's not though. He'd get eaten alive at '47... possibly '40 as well.

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    • deejd
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      #22
      Originally posted by jsfd26
      For his sake, I hope he could stay at 140 where he could be a player but at 147 it would be "Rios who?" IMO. Out of the top 10 147 lbers who can he possibly beat?
      This^^^^. There's no way he'd make noise there. I'd question whether he could hack it with the elite at '40. He'd get that chin touched up by Matthysse, Maidana, even Judah. He'd certainly get outboxed and/or out brawled by Peterson and Guzman... even Guerrero. I honestly think dude has been avoiding '40 for a reason.

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      • El.Naranjito707
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        #23
        It's all good. Let him go to WW this way him and Ortiz can fight(If TR and GBP can work something out.)

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        • talip bin osman
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          #24
          Originally posted by catalinul
          Disagree,Chico was obvisouly past his best by the Clottey fight.He got a beating that night.

          Maybe ''shot'' is overused but he was obviously on the downside of his career by that point.
          he got a beatdown because he was "done" as a fighter? clottey being a naturally bigger and more powerful guy has nothing to do with it?

          cmon man, it was his FIRST fight at WW... how can we know for sure he was on the downside in his career with just a single fight 12 pounds north at LW?

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          • catalinul
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            #25
            Originally posted by talip bin osman
            he got a beatdown because he was "done" as a fighter? clottey being a naturally bigger and more powerful guy has nothing to do with it?

            cmon man, it was his FIRST fight at WW... how can we know for sure he was on the downside in his career with just a single fight 12 pounds north at LW?
            Like Isaid maybe not ''done'' in the true sense.He would have been knocked out early if he was.But he had visibly slowed down and was even more easy to hit than usual.

            That fight wasn't the only proof he was past it,his previous ones were aswell.

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            • talip bin osman
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              #26
              Originally posted by catalinul
              Like Isaid maybe not ''done'' in the true sense.He would have been knocked out early if he was.But he had visibly slowed down and was even more easy to hit than usual.

              That fight wasn't the only proof he was past it,his previous ones were aswell.
              i understand where you are coming from man...

              but how much his "slowing down" is due to him being "way past it" and how much is it because of he really had no business at WW in the first place?

              surely you know what i mean...

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              • ElBossHogg™
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                #27
                rios need to move his big ass up, I like dude but this is just getting sad makes him look like he scared to move up, I know he just stayed here cause of gamboa but if he stays here again he a b

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                • Light_Speed
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                  #28
                  He'll be less dominant at 140 but I think he'll still be a force to be reckoned with. He beats Zab, goes to war with Alvarado and wins, A Peterson fight would be 50/50 and I would favor him over Khan but the fight would never happen.

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                  • catalinul
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by talip bin osman
                    i understand where you are coming from man...

                    but how much his "slowing down" is due to him being "way past it" and how much is it because of he really had no business at WW in the first place?

                    surely you know what i mean...
                    Yes I understand what you mean.

                    But if we're gonna go really deep,he shouldn't have fought as low as 130 and 135 anyway,it was not healthy on the body,especially a guy with his frame.

                    But to me physically and mentally he was past his best.He looked like he checked out after the Casamayor rubbermatch after which he wanted to retire.That's another fight where to me he looked bad and not at his best.

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                    • UL1210
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                      #30
                      I wouldn't be surprised if Rios comes into the ring tomorrow near 160. Does anyone know what his ring weight against Murray was?

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