Who will leave boxing with the best legacy out of Toney, Jones and Hopkins?

[Bozo_no no]

excellent point. Roy did not fight a good opponent after Hill in 98 until Tarver in 2003 and he got beat up,

It's a bogus point, derrived from ignorance.

Who did he not fight after Hill? He fought his mandatories at 175, and then went up to Heavyweight (from Middleweight).

We've been over and over this, and it's clear everything you say is motivated from ignorant spite.

[LondonRingRules]

The order goes Roy, Hop, and fatboy last.

[DiegoFuego]

It's a bogus point, derrived from ignorance.

Who did he not fight after Hill? He fought his mandatories at 175, and then went up to Heavyweight (from Middleweight).

We've been over and over this, and it's clear everything you say is motivated from ignorant spite.

in all honesty, if you hold 3-4 belts in a division and continue holding onto them, you are taking the easy way out by fighting the bogus mandatory challengers thrown at you by these varying bull**** organizations. most great champions drop the belts and fight the best challenger. Hopkins and Roy did not drop those belts and they continued fighting the nobodies of 160 and 175 instead of saying **** the belts and fighting the best opponents at weights around them (LIKE EACH OTHER FOR INSTANCE). making mandatory defenses doesn't mean ****. you fight the best to prove you're the best. if there's no one left in your division who is any good, move up. and when you move up, don't just fight the one champion that is tailor-made for you like Jones fighting Ruiz. and if you do fight him, beat him and defend the belt and beat better fighters at that weight. don't duck out as soon as someone calls your bluff. going up to heavyweight and beating john ruiz means jack **** when you are a runner who can avoid him. jack ****. Toney stood in there and ****** with Ruiz and now he's out for more belts and better opponents. When it comes down to it, maybe Roy was the better fighter. He was certainly a better fight than Hopkins. But will his resume be better? Hell no.

[DiegoFuego]

The order goes Roy, Hop, and fatboy last.

at least you're consistent with your backwards posts. oh wait, you were putting them in increasingly better resumes right?

[DiegoFuego]

why are we even discussing it in this thread with the out of date poll? look at the other poll for the answer.

[TheEvilSaint]

It's a bogus point, derrived from ignorance.

Who did he not fight after Hill? He fought his mandatories at 175, and then went up to Heavyweight (from Middleweight).

We've been over and over this, and it's clear everything you say is motivated from ignorant spite.

you really hate urself so much, you have to insult others to make urself feel better.

maybe you should realize that nobodies perfect and people are ignorant, but i guess everybody has to be perfect just like you.

you want us to have blond hair and blue eyes, too, bozo?

[Bozo_no no]

in all honesty, if you hold 3-4 belts in a division and continue holding onto them, you are taking the easy way out by fighting the bogus mandatory challengers thrown at you by these varying bull**** organizations. most great champions drop the belts and fight the best challenger. Hopkins and Roy did not drop those belts and they continued fighting the nobodies of 160 and 175 instead of saying **** the belts and fighting the best opponents at weights around them (LIKE EACH OTHER FOR INSTANCE). making mandatory defenses doesn't mean ****. you fight the best to prove you're the best. if there's no one left in your division who is any good, move up. and when you move up, don't just fight the one champion that is tailor-made for you like Jones fighting Ruiz. and if you do fight him, beat him and defend the belt and beat better fighters at that weight. don't duck out as soon as someone calls your bluff. going up to heavyweight and beating john ruiz means jack **** when you are a runner who can avoid him. jack ****. Toney stood in there and ****** with Ruiz and now he's out for more belts and better opponents. When it comes down to it, maybe Roy was the better fighter. He was certainly a better fight than Hopkins. But will his resume be better? Hell no.

After fighting Hill in his 3rd fight at Lt Heavy, he didn't even have a strap at 175. He unified the major straps and fought everyone that was made a mandatory challenge to him (with the exception of Darius who we all know wanted nothing to do with him). There's nothing wrong with unifying and cleaning out a division. He didn't spend nearly as long there as Hopkins spent at Middleweight.

Then, in moving up to Heavyweight, he'd dominated Ruiz like he did the guys at 175.

This was an unparalelled accomplishment as he had collected titles from Middelweight to Heavyweight and had done so by defeating 16 current or former champions.

When he did lose, it was after shedding 20+ pounds of muscle while in his mid 30s. History has shown that fighters like Roy who rely on speed and reflex, are not viable anymore at or after 35 years of age.

You're an angry kid who gets off on being hatefull. You were still popping pimples when Jones was at his peak. You should really try giving the hating a rest and try posting about something other than crying and bitching about fighters you don't like. It's tiresome.

[Bozo_no no]

you really hate urself so much, you have to insult others to make urself feel better.

maybe you should realize that nobodies perfect and people are ignorant, but i guess everybody has to be perfect just like you.

you want us to have blond hair and blue eyes, too, bozo?

You're being a drama queen.

You talk out of your ass. This is the 2nd time in a week I've caught you saying something absurd that's outright wrong. You say assinine things, and then you can back them up.

To me, you deserve to be called ******, because you say ****** things. Your "****ing *******" comment in my karma shows that you are obviously quite upset at this.

As I've said before, the solution is simple. Stop talking about things you don't know very much about like you're an authority. If you don't want to be called ignorant, stop being ignorant.

[TheEvilSaint]

You're being a drama queen.

You talk out of your ass. This is the 2nd time in a week I've caught you saying something absurd that's outright wrong. You say assinine things, and then you can back them up.

To me, you deserve to be called ******, because you say ****** things. Your "****ing *******" comment in my karma shows that you are obviously quite upset at this.

As I've said before, the solution is simple. Stop talking about things you don't know very much about like you're an authority. If you don't want to be called ignorant, stop being ignorant.

im not as upset about this as you are, droning on and on and on about how ****** i am.

i rest my case bozo. if you wanna call people ignorant, maybe you should change ur name to something other than the namesake of a clown.

[Bozo_no no]

im not as upset about this as you are, droning on and on and on about how ****** i am.

i rest my case bozo. if you wanna call people ignorant, maybe you should change ur name to something other than the namesake of a clown.

I like how responding to you crying about having your ignorance pointed out is 'droning on and on".

You were saying ****** **** again in this thread that was ignorant, and part of it was outright wrong.

I will continue to point it out when I see you talking out of your ass, A) because it's the right thing to do and B) because I find it funny it bothers you.

Again, if you'd keep quiet when you don't know what you're talking about there woudln't be a problem.