Will Floyd ever reach his full potential or will that zero hold him back?

[AlwaysOnTop]

4corners you should just leave it now your not making any sense. Pac beating DLH was a risk as he was underdog. He was stepping up 2 dvisions and yes DLH stepped down one division but how is anyone to know how DLH is going to perform, he could have dont outstandingly for anyone knew. He was favourite. Hindsight is a wonderful thing though isnt it and we can all make excuses now for DLHs poor showing we are all experts.

Floyd beating Cotto is no icing on any cakes as Floyd should have fought Cotto before Pac damaged him. Floyd didnt damage DLH thats for sure, id say BH did it for Floyd.

I had no problem with Pac facing Margarito, SSM. I didnt expect those fights to make Pacs legacy further. He sure wasnt scared to face them to protect a zero though. I dont expect Pac to face Sergio as Pac is FOTD and has a greater resume than anyone already, so Pac can take a breather for a while. Margartio and SSM were dangerous fights still, although i consider them a breather for Pac.

Even Freddy admitted

"Oscar can't pull the trigger anymore at 147"

Hoya couldn't even stop the dreaded STEVE FORBES...as a matter of fact....Forbes broke his eyesocket.

Little Stevie did more damage than Ms Pacman..

[4Corners]

4corners you should just leave it now your not making any sense. Pac beating DLH was a risk as he was underdog. He was stepping up 2 dvisions and yes DLH stepped down one division but how is anyone to know how DLH is going to perform, he could have dont outstandingly for anyone knew. He was favourite. Hindsight is a wonderful thing though isnt it and we can all make excuses now for DLHs poor showing we are all experts.

Floyd beating Cotto is no icing on any cakes as Floyd should have fought Cotto before Pac damaged him. Floyd didnt damage DLH thats for sure, id say BH did it for Floyd.

You thought Oscar was going to win??? Roach admitted Oscar was done at 147 and couldn't fight there anymore, but it was a great win. But Floyd beating Oscar at 154, crap win. Gotcha....

Floyd beating Oscar at 154 was far far far better than Pac beating him at 145, it's not even close. So Floyd beating a past prime-still good Cotto at 154 isn't a good win, but Pac beating a past prime-still good Cotto as well at 145 was a great win??? You're not objective, you're f**king delusional.

Floyd damaged Hatton and KO'd him into the ring post, I guess we shouldn't give Pac credit for beating Hatton now. But nope, you give him credit for that win, and rightfully so, but then say Cotto is damaged after Pac beat him in 09'. But nope, he wasn't damaged after Margarito beat him, only after Pac did. Gotcha......

In that case, Ali shouldn't credit for beating Joe Frazier twice, because Foreman "damaged him".......And Ali shouldn't get credit for beating Patterson, because Liston "damaged him"......Get the f**k outta here, it's so hard to not just tell you how I really feel, because I don't want to get banned from here. I'm trying to be a little nice and kind to you man, but it's hard with the s**t you spit on here, because honestly you sound delusional.

And Margarito wasn't damaged after Shane KO'd him......And Shane was a bad fight when Floyd fought him, but a good fight when Manny did......And Pac fighting JMM at 144 was a good fight, but Floyd whupping him there was a cherry pick......

YOU'RE NOT OBJECTIVE, YOU'RE A DOUBLE STANDARD AT IT'S FINEST.

You are still the same clown that said Pac is the GOAT and that no one thinks Ray Leonard was the GOAT. And you're still the same guy that Red K'd me in revenge because I pointed out that you take a swipe at Floyd in almost every single post you do.

[Larry the boss]

been gone a week and its the same **** i see

[hugh grant]

You thought Oscar was going to win???

Floyd beating Oscar at 154 was far far far better than Pac beating him at 145, it's not even close. So Floyd beating a past prime-still good Cotto at 154 isn't a good win, but Pac beating a past prime-still good Cotto as well at 145 was a great win??? You're not objective, you're f**king delusional.

Floyd damaged Hatton and KO'd him into the ring post, I guess we shouldn't give Pac credit for beating Hatton now. But nope, you give him credit for that win, and rightfully so, but then say Cotto is damaged after Pac beat him in 09'. But nope, he wasn't damaged after Margarito beat him, only after Pac did. Gotcha......

And Margarito wasn't damaged after Shane KO'd him......And Shane was a bad fight when Floyd fought him, but a good fight when Manny did......And Pac fighting JMM at 144 was a good fight, but Floyd whupping him there was a cherry pick......

YOU'RE NOT OBJECTIVE, YOU'RE A DOUBLE STANDARD AT IT'S FINEST.

You are still the same clown that said Pac is the GOAT and that no one thinks Ray Leonard was the GOAT. And you're still the same guy that Red K'd me in revenge because I pointed out that you take a swipe at Floyd in almost every single post you do.

4corners you are being a floyd fanatic again by talking about how much credit Pac or Floyd should be getting for common opponents. Of course you want Floyd to get more credit for every win, being the floyd fan you are.

But is that zero stopping Floyd from reaching his full potential, why do u keep drifting off topic? He could beat Sergio at 154 perhaps. Hed get more credit for beating Sergio at 160. Will the fear of losing the zero stop him from 160?

[turbotime]

4corners you are being a floyd fanatic again by talking about how much credit Pac or Floyd should be getting for common opponents. Of course you want Floyd to get more credit for every win, being the floyd fan you are.

But is that zero stopping Floyd from reaching his full potential, why do u keep drifting off topic? He could beat Sergio at 154 perhaps. Hed get more credit for beating Sergio at 160. Will the fear of losing the zero stop him from 160?

Why does he have to go to 160 to reach his full potential? He is pretty much maxxed out at 147 as it is. Hes a small welterweight.

[hugh grant]

Why does he have to go to 160 to reach his full potential? He is pretty much maxxed out at 147 as it is. Hes a small welterweight.

If he can beat Sergio at 160 but doesnt attempt it, he is shortchanging himself.
Not saying he can beat him though of course.

[4Corners]

4corners you are being a floyd fanatic again by talking about how much credit Pac or Floyd should be getting for common opponents. Of course you want Floyd to get more credit for every win, being the floyd fan you are.

But is that zero stopping Floyd from reaching his full potential, why do u keep drifting off topic? He could beat Sergio at 154 perhaps. Hed get more credit for beating Sergio at 160. Will the fear of losing the zero stop him from 160?

He should beat Sergio at 154, it'd be even better at 160, Ive always said that. Those would be great wins. But I can already hear the whole "He should have beat him at 160" if he beats him at 154. I answered your question about that awhile ago.

Not a Floyd fanatic, a realist. Floyd deserves more credit for De La Hoya, Hatton, and Mosley. Why??? Because he did it first and they were CLEARLY better fights going in when Floyd them. Pac deserves more credit for Cotto. Why??? Because he did it first.

You are still the same non objective poster, and the same clown that said Pac is the GOAT, and that no one thinks Ray Leonard is the GOAT. And you're still the same guy that Red K'd me in revenge because I said you take a swipe at Floyd in almost every single post that you wrtie on here.

You can't escape that.

Pac and Floyd are both ATG's. I'm a fan of Floyd, I hate some of the fights he's done, Bruseles and Mitchell for example. I'm not a fan of Manny Pacquiao, but I respect him as an ATG fighter and one of the two best in his era, and one of the Top 30 fighters of all-time. And I hate some of the fights he's done, Margarito-Mosley-Marquez in 11' at 144 for example.

I see greatness in both, you can't, I feel sorry for you.

[turbotime]

If he can beat Sergio at 160 but doesnt attempt it, he is shortchanging himself.
Not saying he can beat him though of course.

No one knows if he can beat him. 160 is asking too much of an aging fighter who started at 130. If he does it, great. If he doesn't, oh well- Who has?

[4Corners]

I'm done with this clown, seriously. Conversating with HUGH GRANT defeats the purpose of even conversating with someone in the first place. It's POINTLESS.

[B Phontain]

Dang, 4corners....this battle was EPIC!!! LOL

4cornerskid by tko in the 6th...