Will Floyd ever reach his full potential or will that zero hold him back?

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  • talip bin osman
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    #11
    Originally posted by The Weebler II
    I agree with this.



    Not really, every fight (and/or duck) adds to or detracts from any fighter's legacy. Avoiding the best fighters will affect how people view their careers.
    why cant these guys just follow oscar's example? there were cherry picks here and there but looking at his career as a whole, the guy just fought almost everybody that mattered...

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    • 26 and Live
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      #12
      Naw, people don't wanna see him challenged. He was challenged everytime he moved up a weight class and fought for a belt.

      Every fight that Floyd fought wasn't a cherry pick but its convenient to say it was.

      So now, people say, Floyd needs to challenge himself when in reality they mean Floyd needs to lose.

      And then once he's lost, they'll say the first time he took on a REAL challenge, he lost.

      That's why I don't care what he does. If you want to see Floyd move up in weight, there's a youtube channel "YoungMayMoney" and it has all of his fights.

      Don't tell me that you expect a 35 year old man to fight a 168 pounder in Andre Ward because that's illogical.

      I do want to see the Martinez fight. I'm fine with the fight at 154 but if he wants it at 160, that's fine too. The only thing is that if he moves up to 160 then I don't see him coming back to WW and he'll never be able to fight Manny.

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        #13
        he will never reach his full potential as a fighter becuase of that self preservation mentality. floyd aint a warrior tho a very good athlete.

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          #14
          Originally posted by 26 and Live
          Naw, people don't wanna see him challenged. He was challenged everytime he moved up a weight class and fought for a belt.

          Every fight that Floyd fought wasn't a cherry pick but its convenient to say it was.

          So now, people say, Floyd needs to challenge himself when in reality they mean Floyd needs to lose.

          And then once he's lost, they'll say the first time he took on a REAL challenge, he lost.

          That's why I don't care what he does. If you want to see Floyd move up in weight, there's a youtube channel "YoungMayMoney" and it has all of his fights.

          Don't tell me that you expect a 35 year old man to fight a 168 pounder in Andre Ward because that's illogical.

          I do want to see the Martinez fight. I'm fine with the fight at 154 but if he wants it at 160, that's fine too. The only thing is that if he moves up to 160 then I don't see him coming back to WW and he'll never be able to fight Manny.
          roberto duran (started fighting pro as a bantamweight) challenged iran barkley for a MW title at age 37...

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          • 26 and Live
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            #15
            Originally posted by talip bin osman
            roberto duran (started fighting pro as a bantamweight) challenged iran barkley for a MW title at age 37...
            That fight was at 160 and I think Floyd can fight at 160... Duran actually went as high as 174 (which is amazing)

            But pointing out a single fighter doing something doesn't make it the norm... Guys like Ray Leonard and Thomas Hearns didn't go up more than 30 pounds over the course of their careers. Does that mean that they aren't as good or historically great as Duran?

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              #16
              Originally posted by talip bin osman
              why cant these guys just follow oscar's example? there were cherry picks here and there but looking at his career as a whole, the guy just fought almost everybody that mattered...
              But Oscar didn't show up for his biggest fights..

              Oscar is a terrible example..

              Did he fight Vernon Forrest?

              Winky Wright?

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                #17
                Originally posted by punchville
                he will never reach his full potential as a fighter becuase of that self preservation mentality. floyd aint a warrior tho a very good athlete.
                Catchweights imposed on shot fighters is self-preservation at it's finest..

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                  #18
                  I don't see how not fighting Ward at 168 would be Floyd not be reaching his full potential. That is a idiotic statement. Floyd probably has never weighted 160 in his life but not fighting at 168 would be him not reaching his full potential. Just stfu with these dumb statements PLEASE !!!! I do believe a Floyd - Sergio match should and will happen as long as Sergio doesn't lose before a Mayweather-Martinez fight can be put together.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by AlwaysOnTop
                    Catchweights imposed on shot fighters is self-preservation at it's finest..
                    floyd vs jmm = catchweight

                    one broke the agreement tho for self preservation, lol

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                    • talip bin osman
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by 26 and Live
                      That fight was at 160 and I think Floyd can fight at 160... Duran actually went as high as 174 (which is amazing)

                      But pointing out a single fighter doing something doesn't make it the norm... Guys like Ray Leonard and Thomas Hearns didn't go up more than 30 pounds over the course of their careers. Does that mean that they aren't as good or historically great as Duran?
                      point is.... if a lazy,older, fatter and far over the hill fighter can do it, then a disciplined, younger, in-shape and still nearer to his prime floyd mayweather can...

                      why put barriers for him? imagine if he gets the W over ward?! that going to be very huge for him!

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