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  • Roman Moreno
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    #41
    Originally posted by punchville
    lol, where you get this , wikipedia?

    the commison consists of doctors man, what are you?
    Sure go ahead of Wiki it and see if you find it.

    What Dr? Like Margarette Goodman who started VADA...As a better testing agency then what the commission did. And, she knows because she was the head physician at NSAC. Why did she adopt the 4:1 if the NSAC and NYSAC uses the 6:1? Becuase, 6:1 is not as good.

    California State Commission and New Jersey also adopted the 4:1

    Lets say Chad Dawson has Testosterone level 5 times the amount of normal. He would be found dirty in California and New Jersey, let alone VADA and WADA who also uses CIR mind you. But, who he would fail the Cali and NJ commission test. However, in Nevada and New York he would NOT fail the test. He would be considered a clean fighter. If he had 5 times the amount.

    Again you don't have to take my word, you don't have to worry about who I am or what I do. You can take the word of other commissions like Cali and NJ.

    Better yet you can take the word of Margarette Goodman who is a doctor.

    Or even Dr Johnny Benjamin who said, "What that tells is how much [athletes] do not respect the testing that's being done now," he today told MMAjunkie.com Radio. "Because this dude wasn't even concerned. He's been fighting since he was a kid. He wasn't even concerned because he knows it's shit. He knows that there's nobody really out there looking for what you're doing. They're giving you the wink and the pass. So he didn't even care. It's kind of like your old lady who doesn't care anymore. It was a rookie mistake because he knows how lax the standards are."

    These people have the credentials that you're asking for, and they don't think the state commissions test are "as good"

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    • Roman Moreno
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      #42
      Originally posted by Stop
      That says a lot about the rules of this sport then. It's kinda sad when "cheaters are welcome with open arms" as you say. But if there are so many cheaters out there then why not make OSDT mandatory? It's still not regulated nor mandatory.
      They should, they just don't care...

      this goes out to Punchville AKA Puga as well....Keith Kizer, the head of Nevada State Athletic Commission said, "Some people think 4-to-1 is too high. In fact, most people think 4-to-1 is too high. And it is"

      He agrees that 4:1 is too high. But, yet he allows 6:1...WTF?

      Is Punchville going going to ask for Kizer credentials too?

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      • punchville
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        #43
        Originally posted by Roman Moreno
        Sure go ahead of Wiki it and see if you find it.

        What Dr? Like Margarette Goodman who started VADA...As a better testing agency then what the commission did. And, she knows because she was the head physician at NSAC. Why did she adopt the 4:1 if the NSAC and NYSAC uses the 6:1? Becuase, 6:1 is not as good.

        California State Commission and New Jersey also adopted the 4:1

        Lets say Chad Dawson has Testosterone level 5 times the amount of normal. He would be found dirty in California and New Jersey, let alone VADA and WADA who also uses CIR mind you. But, who he would fail the Cali and NJ commission test. However, in Nevada and New York he would NOT fail the test. He would be considered a clean fighter. If he had 5 times the amount.

        Again you don't have to take my word, you don't have to worry about who I am or what I do. You can take the word of other commissions like Cali and NJ.

        Better yet you can take the word of Margarette Goodman who is a doctor.

        Or even Dr Johnny Benjamin who said, "What that tells is how much [athletes] do not respect the testing that's being done now," he today told MMAjunkie.com Radio. "Because this dude wasn't even concerned. He's been fighting since he was a kid. He wasn't even concerned because he knows it's shit. He knows that there's nobody really out there looking for what you're doing. They're giving you the wink and the pass. So he didn't even care. It's kind of like your old lady who doesn't care anymore. It was a rookie mistake because he knows how lax the standards are."

        These people have the credentials that you're asking for, and they don't think the state commissions test are "as good"
        this sport is about who is the superior fighter at a fight, not which test is more effective. with all the BS thats going on in boxing, we dont need another one. unless, they make that VADA or WADA testing a standard for everyone, it's completely useless.

        it's either you wanna fight or not. those who refuse to fight under commision testing think they are special and truthfully have doubts in their minds they can compete, thats the bottomline.

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          #44
          Originally posted by punchville
          this sport is about who is the superior fighter at a fight, not which test is more effective. with all the BS thats going on in boxing, we dont need another one. unless, they make that VADA or WADA testing a standard for everyone, it's completely useless.

          it's either you wanna fight or not. those who refuse to fight under commision testing think they are special and truthfully have doubts in their minds they can compete, thats the bottomline.
          Still doesn't change the fact that the current testing procedure it not "as good" which unless I'm mistaken was the point being made and then refuted.

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          • Roman Moreno
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            #45
            Originally posted by punchville
            this sport is about who is the superior fighter at a fight, not which test is more effective. with all the BS thats going on in boxing, we dont need another one. unless, they make that VADA or WADA testing a standard for everyone, it's completely useless.

            it's either you wanna fight or not. those who refuse to fight under commision testing think they are special and truthfully have doubts in their minds they can compete, thats the bottomline.
            That's fine, if you think cheating is good for the sport or if it's OK for the fighters to juice up.

            Fine, you can have that belief. I won't debate that or argue that. Just don't say that commission testing are just "as good" because it isn't... Not even the head of NSAC Keith Kizer agrees with that.

            That's all I'm saying. Obviously you are OK with the commissions having an open doper for guys who juice. That is fine, you're entitled to that belief.

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              #46
              Originally posted by Roman Moreno
              That's fine, if you think cheating is good for the sport or if it's OK for the fighters to juice up.

              Fine, you can have that belief. I won't debate that or argue that. Just don't say that commission testing are just "as good" because it isn't... Not even the head of NSAC Keith Kizer agrees with that.

              That's all I'm saying. Obviously you are OK with the commissions having an open doper for guys who juice. That is fine, you're entitled to that belief.
              you putting words in my mouth now. if it's good enough for the commsion to continue using it and good enugh for all the fighters exept a few who think they're special (the scared divas), it's good enough for me as a fan.

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              • Roman Moreno
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                #47
                Originally posted by punchville
                you putting words in my mouth now. if it's good enough for the commsion to continue using it and good enugh for all the fighters exept a few who think they're special (the scared divas), it's good enough for me as a fan.
                If Keith Kizer agrees that 4-to-1 is too high then he obviously doesn't think his commission testing is good enough if they're using 6-to-1.

                The commission especially Texas, Nevada, and New York amongst others are welcoming cheaters. You agree that is good enough for you as a fan.

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                • punchville
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Roman Moreno
                  If Keith Kizer agrees that 4-to-1 is too high then he obviously doesn't think his commission testing is good enough if they're using 6-to-1.

                  The commission especially Texas, Nevada, and New York amongst others are welcoming cheaters. You agree that is good enough for you as a fan.
                  sometimes , we have to take part at something we dont always agree, thats a hard fact of life.

                  imagine if every fighter had it their way.

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                  • Roman Moreno
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by punchville
                    sometimes , we have to take part at something we dont always agree, thats a hard fact of life.

                    imagine if every fighter had it their way.
                    Either way it is not "as good" as other testing agencies(WADA and VADA) and that can not be argued.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by William Blake
                      steroids in boxing do little or nothing to help....didn't help Vargas, didn't help Toney, etc.

                      what bradley needs to do is to keep that battering ram of his in check
                      You very narrow minded who said PEDS is only steroids , and how many winners use PEDS that dont get caught , its bigger than you think .

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