Is JMM still using the same strength coach?

[Roman Moreno]

There really does seem to be some mystery and misinformation regarding the Trevor Graham thing over the first 5 pages of Google. I guess everyone can take their own assumptions from it, because I see his name tied in with Ariza, Conte and Herreria all over the place.

They were all affiliated very closely at one point, so for them to be involved again in other ways wouldn't really surprise me.

Having BALCO, Marion Jones, Jose Canseco, Mark McGwire, Barry Bonds, Lance Armstrong, etc... stuffed down our throats for over a decade by the American media. When Conte says things like the drug designers are at least a decade ahead of the testers, I think he probably really means two decades. I would estimate somewhere between 60-70% of all professional athletes are on banned performance enhancers of some kind. If Floyd, Pacquiao, Marquez, and both Klits all had the same dealer it wouldn't even surprise me.

Where do you see his name tied with Ariza? In a fake article?

Is Trevor Graham a person with baggage? Sure, is he tied with Conte and Heredia? Yes. However, the only link to Pac and Ariza is a fake article.

No, my overall point was that it's a useless discussion since neither Pacquaio nor Marquez are going to demand OSDT. And I was basically mentioning that this issue has already been discussed on the forum.

I still don't think it is useless to discuss. This is an issue that fans should not forget or sweep it under the rug.

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well It was a conflict of Interest when Team Pacman initially raised concerns over his PED past.But Marquez said he is willing to do extra Testing to prove he is clean,as long as Manny takes the same Test.
So Team Pacman quickly aborted the script once they knew they might be asked to TAKE THE TEST.
Its not the first Time there has been a conflict of Interest in Pac's team.
They wanted Mosley to take extra Test coz of his PED past,but once Shane said he is willing to Take the Test as long as Pac takes his,they quickly changed the subject.
So please wake me up once Team Pacman willfully takes the Test to prove how clean they are.
The fight against Bradly could have been used to clear the Air by having both guys Take the Test,but as per usual Pacman does not Take the Test.

As they say,where ever there is smoke there is fire.

Manny Pacquiao is already tested before and after fights, he's always came up clean. He even agreed to OSDT for Floyd but as usual, the coward boy Mayweather ducked him again.

[William Blake]

Is Marquez still using that shady strength coach from the 3rd Pac fight? Am I the only one who finds this dude su****ious?

marquez is trying to keep quiet on that one and would prefer to keep whining about losing another close one to pacquiao

i also find that strength coach su****ious...the guy is a former ped dealer who ratted out other ped dealers....marquez's body look a lot different than it did against floyd...just saying

[trainhard_187]

Is Marquez still using that shady strength coach from the 3rd Pac fight? Am I the only one who finds this dude su****ious?

Marquez + Angel (PED-Balco) Hernandez = No accusations of PED's

Pacquiao + No proof of PED's + No association of working with PED experts + Floyd accusing Pac of PED's = Raises a red flag and makes Pacman guilty

I just dont get it.

[trainhard_187]

Oh how the boxing boards would be filled with haters if Pacman was caught just having dinner or a photo circulated with Pacman and Conte in the same room..

But here you have Marquez actually working with Angel (Balco) Hernandez during his training for Pac..

[ElMeroChingon]

Are you referring to me? I just find it funny that Mayweather and Marquez fans accuse Manny of using because of su****ious circumstances surrounding his strength trainer and performance and ignore this Marquez situation. Im not a fan of either to be honest and I'm not saying that either man is definitely using or not using.

Marquez's trainer went on record to say he has no problem with any type of testing, whenever or whatever they want, he'll do.

[ny123]

Marquez's trainer went on record to say he has no problem with any type of testing, whenever or whatever they want, he'll do.

That doesn't mean much coming from a guy like him especially when he knew team Pac wasnt going to call him out on that statement.

[ROSS CALIFORNIA]

Are you referring to me? I just find it funny that Mayweather and Marquez fans accuse Manny of using because of su****ious circumstances surrounding his strength trainer and performance and ignore this Marquez situation. Im not a fan of either to be honest and I'm not saying that either man is definitely using or not using.

I think the reasons for that is because JMM already had two tough fights with Pac before this last one, so it was "believable" this fight was tough too. Also, this is just one fight for JMM with that conditioning coach. Pac has had a lot of success in multiple fights with Ariza. That makes a difference as to how the two situations are viewed, IMO.