Is JMM still using the same strength coach?

[LeG00N]

hopefully........he looked great with him.

[Roman Moreno]

Memo still works with JMM, Memo also works with Arce and Mijares. 2 other fighters who are having somewhat of a comeback. After everyone thought they were done.

Also LMAO @ people thinking because a fighter says "test me" without actually taking the test means anything. I thought we would have learned after Manny Pacquiao, Andre Ward, and Gary Sheffield.

He is just like Alex Ariza. Ariza is linked to steroid use yet u motha fawkas aren't crying about that.

How is Ariza links to roids? And, a lot of people talk down on Ariza. A lot of people find him shady. So not sure what you're referring to.

That guy was there to boost ratings and sales, and he delivered.

Of course he knew he'd be called out for his previous convictions and Ariza and Team Pacquiao would call it out, and have the boxing world buzzing about how Marquez also may be juicing and create a hype machine.

We may never see dude again unless Marquez-Pacquiao IV gets made.

It was actually Victor Conte was the one who pointed out. Not Ariza or team Pac. It was Conte who made it known. If it wasn't for Conte no one would have known about it.

Ariza's shakes are more su****ious along with his PED link history.

What PED is he link to(serious question)?

yeah he is using the same strength and conditioning coach. hes actually like his 2nd coach or something. he was at the presser with marquez too. Conte is dirty as **** too but nobody brings that up either. if u ask me i wld hire marquez's coach over all of them. the dude sounds extremely knowledgable in his interviews.

Everyone brings up Conte. Everyone even says that he knows how to beat the test. So no fighter should be working with him. VADA doesn't get a lot of support because Conte backs it up. Again everyone brings up Conte. Not sure why would think that.

What are you talkin about? During the Marquez vs. Pacquaio 3 time, there were a lot of folks here discussing it. Where were you? At the end of the day, it's useless to talk about because we all know Pacquaio is not going to demand OSTD for his fights. The Pacquaio camp were well-aware of Memo's history and present history. And despite that, they still did not demand any particular testing. And Marquez seemed not to be bothered about the allegations regarding Pacquaio.

And as far as strength and conditioning trainers go -- Memo is superior to Ariza. Memo has his clients winning gold medals with record breaking timing using who knows what. Haha.

So your overall point is that one is better than cheating than the other. OK.

Marquez not only worked with Conte for his last fight with Pacquiao, he also had a full team of doctors and nutritionists who were helping him to get into massive shape. He completely changed his diet and improved his habits and we all know that everything went well for him.

Marquez didn't work with Conte. He worked with Angel 'Memo' Heredia.

[LeoReyes]

Memo still works with JMM, Memo also works with Arce and Mijares. 2 other fighters who are having somewhat of a comeback. After everyone thought they were done.

Also LMAO @ people thinking because a fighter says "test me" without actually taking the test means anything. I thought we would have learned after Manny Pacquiao, Andre Ward, and Gary Sheffield.



How is Ariza links to roids? And, a lot of people talk down on Ariza. A lot of people find him shady. So not sure what you're referring to.



It was actually Victor Conte was the one who pointed out. Not Ariza or team Pac. It was Conte who made it known. If it wasn't for Conte no one would have known about it.



What PED is he link to(serious question)?



Everyone brings up Conte. Everyone even says that he knows how to beat the test. So no fighter should be working with him. VADA doesn't get a lot of support because Conte backs it up. Again everyone brings up Conte. Not sure why would think that.



So your overall point is that one is better than cheating than the other. OK.



Marquez didn't work with Conte. He worked with Angel 'Memo' Herrera.

One of the guys Ariza has brought in as a strength and conditioning consultant on multiple occasions for Pacquiao is Trevor Graham. He is perma-banned from training Olympic athletes for his involvement in BALCO. It should be noted that he was one of the whistle blowers on the whole BALCO thing, however.

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i dont know if he still is, but with this cab driver fights, he doesnt need one... it'll be just a waste to pay him.

He either fights Pac, or cab drivers. That's why Marquez will never be a true champion.

[SplitSecond]

One of the guys Ariza has brought in as a strength and conditioning consultant on multiple occasions for Pacquiao is Trevor Graham. He is perma-banned from training Olympic athletes for his involvement in BALCO. It should be noted that he was one of the whistle blowers on the whole BALCO thing, however.

article? proof?.....i google and find nada

takes me to boxingscene and e a s tsideboxing with posters saying it's fake

[Roman Moreno]

One of the guys Ariza has brought in as a strength and conditioning consultant on multiple occasions for Pacquiao is Trevor Graham. He is perma-banned from training Olympic athletes for his involvement in BALCO. It should be noted that he was one of the whistle blowers on the whole BALCO thing, however.

You know that is not true right. A boxingscene poster made that up.

He either fights Pac, or cab drivers. That's why Marquez will never be a true champion.

Marquez has been a true champ. Stop typing.

article? proof?.....i google and find nada

takes me to boxingscene and e a s tsideboxing with posters saying it's fake

It is a fake. A poster made it up. I was here during that time. Here is the "original article"

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=316205

[LeoReyes]

There really does seem to be some mystery and misinformation regarding the Trevor Graham thing over the first 5 pages of Google. I guess everyone can take their own assumptions from it, because I see his name tied in with Ariza, Conte and Herreria all over the place.

They were all affiliated very closely at one point, so for them to be involved again in other ways wouldn't really surprise me.

Having BALCO, Marion Jones, Jose Canseco, Mark McGwire, Barry Bonds, Lance Armstrong, etc... stuffed down our throats for over a decade by the American media. When Conte says things like the drug designers are at least a decade ahead of the testers, I think he probably really means two decades. I would estimate somewhere between 60-70% of all professional athletes are on banned performance enhancers of some kind. If Floyd, Pacquiao, Marquez, and both Klits all had the same dealer it wouldn't even surprise me.

[radioraheem]

So your overall point is that one is better than cheating than the other. OK.

No, my overall point was that it's a useless discussion since neither Pacquaio nor Marquez are going to demand OSDT. And I was basically mentioning that this issue has already been discussed on the forum.

[radioraheem]

It was actually Victor Conte was the one who pointed out. Not Ariza or team Pac. It was Conte who made it known. If it wasn't for Conte no one would have known about it.

Ariza brought it out minimally around the same time too, but he didn't go hard with the info like Conte did. And Ariza mentioned some information that even Conte admitted he didn't know (like how Memo is behind the success of Usain Bolt and other Jamaican track stars). So I wouldn't go as far as saying if it wasn't for Conte, no one would had known about it... But maybe it wouldn't have gotten half the attention it did without Conte.

[Roman Moreno]

Ariza brought it out minimally around the same time too, but he didn't go hard with the info like Conte did. And Ariza mentioned some information that even Conte admitted he didn't know (like how Memo is behind the success of Usain Bolt and other Jamaican track stars). So I wouldn't go as far as saying if it wasn't for Conte, no one would had known about it... But maybe it wouldn't have gotten half the attention it did without Conte.

Conte brought it out first. He is the one who made it public. After Conte is when Ariza threw his 2 cents in.