Is Andre Ward the world's second best fighter?

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  • -DSG-
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    #71
    no he isnt even the best fighter in his division because bute would beat him. may,pac,martinez,

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    • Rhyme 4 Rhyme
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      #72
      Originally posted by Since 1985
      Answer the question. Wards' fight game is the most complete other than Floyd. If you have nothing valid to say then don't post in the thread.
      He's a well rounded fighter, however he cannot fight on the inside consistently. At times, he shows true skill, using head movement, counter-punching, and is able to slip away from punches. However, he does not do this throughout the whole fight. He resorts to clinching down and holding down the stretch and uses that to neutralize his opponents offense. I don't give him credit for that.

      Just based off skill, in my top 20 P4P list, I probably put Mayweather, Moreno, Marquez, and Nishioka ahead of him.

      Aside from that, skill isn't only what makes you a great fighter or puts you higher on a P4P list. He has a good resume, but I'd like to see him tested more. In close fights, it would be interesting to see down the stretch how he performed. I think he has a lot of skill, however the way he currently fights on the "inside" according to you takes a lot away from his game IMO.

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        #73
        Originally posted by Rhyme 4 Rhyme
        He's a well rounded fighter, however he cannot fight on the inside consistently.
        Hmmm did you watch the Ward-Green fight?

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        • F l i c k e r
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          #74
          lol, why is p4p still being brought up in this thread? Skill is skill regardless of if it comes from a minimum weight or a heavyweight.

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            #75
            Originally posted by Rhyme 4 Rhyme
            He's a well rounded fighter, however he cannot fight on the inside consistently. At times, he shows true skill, using head movement, counter-punching, and is able to slip away from punches. However, he does not do this throughout the whole fight. He resorts to clinching down and holding down the stretch and uses that to neutralize his opponents offense. I don't give him credit for that.

            Just based off skill, in my top 20 P4P list, I probably put Mayweather, Moreno, Marquez, and Nishioka ahead of him.

            Aside from that, skill isn't only what makes you a great fighter or puts you higher on a P4P list. He has a good resume, but I'd like to see him tested more. In close fights, it would be interesting to see down the stretch how he performed. I think he has a lot of skill, however the way he currently fights on the "inside" according to you takes a lot away from his game IMO.

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              #76
              Originally posted by Rhyme 4 Rhyme
              He's a well rounded fighter, however he cannot fight on the inside consistently. At times, he shows true skill, using head movement, counter-punching, and is able to slip away from punches. However, he does not do this throughout the whole fight. He resorts to clinching down and holding down the stretch and uses that to neutralize his opponents offense. I don't give him credit for that.

              Just based off skill, in my top 20 P4P list, I probably put Mayweather, Moreno, Marquez, and Nishioka ahead of him.

              Aside from that, skill isn't only what makes you a great fighter or puts you higher on a P4P list. He has a good resume, but I'd like to see him tested more. In close fights, it would be interesting to see down the stretch how he performed. I think he has a lot of skill, however the way he currently fights on the "inside" according to you takes a lot away from his game IMO.
              Wow this post is horrendous. He can't fight on the inside consistently becausse he clinches sometimes. P4P has nothing to do with this. Either peole here are really ****** or they don't pay attention. How many times do I have to say the same thing. SMH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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              • Rhyme 4 Rhyme
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                #77
                Originally posted by Light_Speed
                Hmmm did you watch the Ward-Green fight?
                Yeah and have you watched the Ward-Kessler fight?

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by Rhyme 4 Rhyme
                  Yeah and have you watched the Ward-Kessler fight?

                  What's wrong with that fight?

                  He used the brawling tactic against a guy who hates getting physical.

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by -TITAN-
                    no he isnt even the best fighter in his division because bute would beat him. may,pac,martinez,
                    Ward owns Bute.

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by F l i c k e r
                      lol, why is p4p still being brought up in this thread? Skill is skill regardless of if it comes from a minimum weight or a heavyweight.
                      It's amazing, I don't even know what to say anymore. This is so simple, yet it sails over so many people's heads. It's mind boggling!

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