Is Andre Ward the world's second best fighter?

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  • vironaprile8
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    #91
    Originally posted by Since 1985
    Froch, Kessler, Abraham, Bika, etc. Bute's best win is a past prime Glen Johnson. Bute's resume is a joke. Ward will beat him easily if Bute even fights him.
    Kessler fight was a joke, I don't think kessler even expect'd Ward to be half as good as he turned out to be. Ok bute resume is **** fine but who has andre fought to make him no.2 Pound for pound? Wlad has more of a claim than andre.

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    • PrinceCharlez
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      #92
      Originally posted by Since 1985
      I think so. Ward is right behind Floyd imo. Dre is a hall of famer in the making imo. This is based on ability not resume.
      I agree..

      What people fail to see because they are new to the sport is that P4P rankings typically goes to the BIGGER men. The only reason why the WW division is the division to be at is because the HEAVY WEIGHT divison is DEAD!

      With that being said FLoyd Mayweather is P4P the best fighter in the world hands down. I dont care which fighter you are a fan of, skill wise floyd still got it & until someone beats him he is P4P the best because he's fought the best and beat the best.

      Andre Ward is def number 2 behind him because he is a BIGGER man who is technically one of boxing best. The guy KNOWS how to win in any situation. Where as fighters like Pac, Martinez, Marquez only have one style. You've never seen a fight where you actually seen them thinking & adapting to their opponent. Thats what seperates the great from the good...Mayweather and Ward are the only fighters who adapt and technically destroy their opponents...

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      • vironaprile8
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        #93
        Originally posted by PrinceCharlez
        I agree..

        What people fail to see because they are new to the sport is that P4P rankings typically goes to the BIGGER men. The only reason why the WW division is the division to be at is because the HEAVY WEIGHT divison is DEAD!

        With that being said FLoyd Mayweather is P4P the best fighter in the world hands down. I dont care which fighter you are a fan of, skill wise floyd still got it & until someone beats him he is P4P the best because he's fought the best and beat the best.

        Andre Ward is def number 2 behind him because he is a BIGGER man who is technically one of boxing best. The guy KNOWS how to win in any situation. Where as fighters like Pac, Martinez, Marquez only have one style. You've never seen a fight where you actually seen them thinking & adapting to their opponent. Thats what seperates the great from the good...Mayweather and Ward are the only fighters who adapt and technically destroy their opponents...
        No one has ever pushed andre though., He's always been allowed to fight his fight. Can't wait to see him fight out of his comfort zone somone who is'nt a pressure fighter or a guy who is tough without skill. Dirrell beats him Imho. Which fight made you feel andre was an ATG in the making?
        Last edited by vironaprile8; 04-02-2012, 07:12 PM.

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        • Someone88
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          #94
          Ward would beat up Mayweather

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          • vironaprile8
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            #95
            Originally posted by Someone88
            Ward would beat up Mayweather
            Really????

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            • Larry the boss
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              #96
              no................

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              • mathed
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                #97
                Originally posted by Since 1985
                I think so. Ward is right behind Floyd imo. Dre is a hall of famer in the making imo. This is based on ability not resume.
                Absolutely not. He beat a few guys in the super 6 tourney but that's it. Bute challenged him at the end of the tourney and he said no thanks....but has since mentioned that he wanted to fight Kessler again...a guy he already beat.

                Way, way to0 many fights at home with too many close to home judges. He has undeniable skills but to say what he has accomplished in his career is more impressive compared to say what JMM and Pac have accomplished in their respective careers is so asinine imo.

                Kessler is not what he once was, Froch looked like a drunk sailor in there (wouldn't be surprised if he was drugged), AA had no business fighting at 168 in the first place (I mean the guy is like 5 ft 8 in or something), Allan Green looked like he was fresh from the POW camp and he hardly threw more than 5 punches the entire fight, and Ward hugged on for dear life in the Miranda win (a guy that Bute KO'd in 3 rds by the way)

                He has some good NAMEs on his resume but that's it.....the actual quality of the competition turned out to be B+ level at best. Kessler was the favorite going into it and Calzaghe made a prime Kessler look lost a few years earlier before Ward was even big on the scene.
                Last edited by mathed; 04-02-2012, 07:21 PM.

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by vironaprile8
                  Really????
                  Yep but Ward respects Mayweather so he wouldn't do that

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                  • COACH WEBB
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                    #99
                    I thought the OP clearly said based on ABILITY AND NOT RESUME, or maybe I misread it?

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                      #100
                      Originally posted by mathed
                      Absolutely not. He beat a few guys in the super 6 tourney but that's it. Bute challenged him at the end of the tourney and he said no thanks....but has since mentioned that he wanted to fight Kessler again...a guy he already beat.

                      Way, way to0 many fights at home with too many close to home judges. He has undeniable skills but to say what he has accomplished in his career is more impressive compared to say what JMM and Pac have accomplished in their respective careers is so asinine imo.

                      Kessler is not what he once was, Froch looked like a drunk sailor in there (wouldn't be surprised if he was drugged), AA had no business fighting at 168 in the first place (I mean the guy is like 5 ft 8 in or something), Allan Green looked like he was fresh from the POW camp and he hardly threw more than 5 punches the entire fight, and Ward hugged on for dear life in the Miranda win (a guy that Bute KO'd in 3 rds by the way)

                      He has some good NAMEs on his resume but that's it.....the actual quality of the competition turned out to be B+ level at best. Kessler was the favorite going into it and Calzaghe made a prime Kessler look lost a few years earlier before Ward was even big on the scene.
                      This post has virtually nothing to do with the actual topic of this thread. This is about pure boxing ability. You guys are so dumb. The iq of the average NSB poster must be less than 50. Boxing fans must be the dumbest in sports, NSB is evidence of that.

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