Did manny duck joan guzman?

[The Gambler1981]

If I want to use a real standard no he did not, it would have been a cool fight to happen but it just didn't.

If I want to use the standard some use, yes he did.

The first one is more reasonable.

[Roman Moreno]

How so?

Going by your logic. Lets repeat what you said. "A fight itself didn't happen due to one fighter(Cotto) being scared of fighting another fighter(Pacquiao) at their own weight class(147).

That's your logic and reasoning.

Pac-Cotto II at any weight is garbage. Is a very unnecessary rematch. There was no point in that fight taking place again.

[maguirre]

Let's assume Pac ducked Guzman. Where is he now?

Do you have to fight superstar Manny to become somebody? Or just fight your own fights and make a name for yourself? I like Guzman's style, btw. He fights just like the Pacman.

[Roman Moreno]

Let's assume Pac ducked Guzman. Where is he now?

Do you have to fight superstar Manny to become somebody? Or just fight your own fights and make a name for yourself? I like Guzman's style, btw. He fights just like the Pacman.

[Reloaded]

Amd what are your thoughts about ray leonard "handicapping" fighters???

Be more specific .

[Kagami Taiga]

Let's assume Pac ducked Guzman. Where is he now?

Do you have to fight superstar Manny to become somebody? Or just fight your own fights and make a name for yourself? I like Guzman's style, btw. He fights just like the Pacman.

werd, he fights just like him. last time i saw him fight, i was thinking, "damn, this is pacman reincarnated."

[EMACULATE]

Nate Campbell or Joel Casamayor would have been good fights, better than David Diaz. Casamayor was the RING LW champion after beating Corrales, and had beat Cruz and Katsidis after that. Campbell had beaten Juan Diaz to win the WBO, WBA, and IBF LW titles.

Totally agree that these were ducks but he will never get criticized like Floyd. I agree that Manny is a warrior are atleast thats how Top Rank has his image, but they have choosen a strategic path for his career and I also thank Mayweather chose a strategic path as well when he moved up. Did it make good business since. Yes look at the amount of money PAC and Floyd make right now.

I dont see how Paul Williams and Berto arent on the duck list for Pac as well as Mosley after the Margarito win. Mosley was the lineal champion and margarito, clottey and Cotto all got shots but Mosley whom didnt fight for Top Rank didnt get a shot until he defected from Golden Boy. This is called the old Don King method where the promoter ensures he has the rights of the winner.


Manny is a good fighter but his wins over Morrales, Barrera, Oscar and Molsey are overrated and none where in there prime. I still cant believe he hasnt beaten Marquez and he himself has stated that he really wants no part of Marquez. He has been exposed and I dont really see how he gets away with a controversial win like that and dont avenge it. If it was Floyd like the Ortiz fight he would be crucified. Pacquaio to me is great match-making and crowd pleasing style. Roach has did his best to transform him into an all around fighter but theres only so much he can do. The wars and action packed fights have taken there toll on Pacquaio and what does he have to fall back on like a Marquez who is ring astute and savy enough to work behind the jab, counter eventhough he isnt as quick are as powerful a puncher.

[shadeyfizzle]

Be more specific .

He refused to fight hagler for 3years and still refused to fight him without a bigger ring. He also made lalonde put up his 175lb title at a weight limit of 168lbs.

According to the dumbass logic you apply to pac then leonard is in fact not a great fighter but the definition of a ducker

[dibzvincent143]

yeah. duck. even pacman would say who the hell is joan guzman. they are better opportunities out there. money etc. nobody care about this guy, risk is more than the achievement type of fight. see what happened to him now. people must really learn what duck is before making threads like this, when u chose cotto over mosley, it isnt a duck like most people say again here about pac.. pac is a natural 140 fighter, and he's being bashed because he doesnt want to fight cotto at 154 while floyd did, and thats just because floyd is bigger. pac would beat cotto 10 out of 10 times at any weight though IMO but before the fight negotiations we all know nobody want to see pac-cotto II but then floydstans are now using it to hype their fight, but lets just give credit where its due.

[Brother Jay]

Before all the weight problems and drug use? Did manny duck this very fast slick counter puncher?

I don't know about Guzman but he sure ducked Nate Campbell!