If Floyd fights and beats Cotto and Canelo: Ties Pacquiao for Lineal Titles?

[Dirk Diggler UK]

You're lost dude. The Ring even states the lineal titlists in event of it being vacant the top 1/2 guys will fight for lineage and the RING title. See Delahoya/Mosley for example.

The Ring Title is not the lineal title.

Roy Jones was the Ring Champion but Dariusz M was the lineal champ.

There's your lesson for today.

[Roman Moreno]

You're lost dude. The Ring even states the lineal titlists in event of it being vacant the top 1/2 guys will fight for lineage and the RING title. See Delahoya/Mosley for example.

You lost everyone when you started mentioning Martinez and Forrest. As if they were lineal champs. They were WBC champs. But, they were never ever lineal champs at 154.

[turbotime]

You just adding to many unnecessary things and I don't know why. There doesn't have to be a ring title, WBC, nor WBA title on the line to have 2 fighters fight for the lineal title.

Vacant lineal titles all you need is universally the top 2 guys in the division fight each other. Not just the top 2 guys by one source like the ring. But, the top 2 guys universally. It doesn't matter if the other titles are on the line or not.

Yeah it's really only up to the RING when it's all said and done. What belt did Marquez have when Pac beat him at 130....WBC?

[ElMeroChingon]

Pacquiao has 4 to his credit. 154 could be Floyd's 4th. Just when you thought their names couldn't be any more linked to one another.

How about Floyd vs Kirkland? I would pay to see that.

[Roman Moreno]

The Ring Title is not the lineal title.

Roy Jones was the Ring Champion but Dariusz M was the lineal champ.

There's your lesson for today.

This is true.

Also, would point out that for awhile the ring title was vacant at Flyweight. But, the lineal champion dated back till' the 70's as far back with Miguel Canto. The lineage hasn't been broken since. To the ring credit here though they finally got it right.

There is still some debate if Erdei is still the lineal champion. Since he only had 1 Cruiserweight. And, then went back down to Light Heavyweight.

Also like David P. Greisman mentioned that the ring were too quick to pull the trigger in making Hernandez-Cunningham II for the ring title. When Huck is still campaigning at Cruiserweight. Hernandez might be the ring champion. But, Hernandez-Huck would decide the lineal champion.

[turbotime]

The Ring Title is not the lineal title.

Roy Jones was the Ring Champion but Dariusz M was the lineal champ.

There's your lesson for today.

Says who? You? Any mixture of an alphabet soup belt and the ring belt qualifies as lineal title, or the #1 and #2 guys who are usually alphabet soup champs anyways.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Says who? You?

Oh dear

[Roman Moreno]

Yeah it's really only up to the RING when it's all said and done. What belt did Marquez have when Pac beat him at 130....WBC?

It's not up to the Ring to decide lineal champ. It is up to the ring to decide the ring champ when it's all said and done.

Yes JMM had the WBC. But, that's not the reason why that fight was for the lineal champion. He could have had the WBA or IBF or WBO or IBO or not even have the belt. As long as him and Pac were recognized universally as the top 2 fighters at 130 is all that was needed.

[turbotime]

How about Floyd vs Kirkland? I would pay to see that.

I'd love a Floyd vs Kirkland bout. I;m thinking Anne is going to have some words for James though and won't be too keen on taking the top 5 guys quite yet. Gotta erase that Molina stain first.

[Roman Moreno]

Says who? You? Any mixture of an alphabet soup belt and the ring belt qualifies as lineal title, or the #1 and #2 guys who are usually alphabet soup champs anyways.

Did you stop reading there? He actually gave you a great example.

Roy Jones was the Ring champ.

Dariusz was the lineal champ.