who is the greatest hispanic fighter ever?

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  • D4thincarnation
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    #31
    Originally posted by -Lowkey-
    Pacquiao is not Hispanic even if he was he wouldn't be the best Hispanic fighter of all time.
    The Philippines are hispanic, the name of the country itself is named after the King of Spain.

    Their culture has Hispanic influences and their language and it is estimated that up to 33 million of the population are from Spanish descent.

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    • D4thincarnation
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      #32
      Originally posted by MANIAC310
      inb4 he argues that Pinoy's have spanish blood

      and that jabs don't count
      Compubox counts them separately, I wonder why?

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      • ChrisWebber
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        #33
        Originally posted by D4thincarnation
        The Philippines are hispanic, the name of the country itself is named after the King of Spain.

        Their culture has Hispanic influences and their language and it is estimated that up to 33 million of the population are from Spanish descent.
        No, the Philippines are not a hispanic country. They obviously do have spanish heritage from their 300+ years as a Spanish colony but they don't fall under the Latino banner in any possible way. Their national language, tagalog, and their other autochthonus languages only loan a few words from Spanish and other than that are completely unrelated to the Spanish language. Being that lenguage is the only real criteria used to determine the tremendously racially diverse Hispanic world they can not be considered latinos. Furthermore, the influece of Spanish culture in the Philippines is relatively small when you compare it to the influece it's had, and has, in Latin America.


        And by the way, these 33 million you are talking about have some spanish ancestry, just like there's 15% or so of Americans who have german ancestry. Doesn't mean they directly descend from Spanish people but have spanish blood in them, mostly distant. You just have to look at the racial make up of the filipino people to realize that the Spanish component is not that big in ethnic terms.

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          #34
          Originally posted by ChrisWebber
          No, the Philippines are not a hispanic country. They obviously do have spanish heritage from their 300+ years as a Spanish colony but they don't fall under the Latino banner in any possible way. Their national language, tagalog, and their other autochthonus languages only loan a few words from Spanish and other than that are completely unrelated to the Spanish language. Being that lenguage is the only real criteria used to determine the tremendously racially diverse Hispanic world they can not be considered latinos. Furthermore, the influece of Spanish culture in the Philippines is relatively small when you compare it to the influece it's had, and has, in Latin America.


          And by the way, these 33 million you are talking about have some spanish ancestry, just like there's 15% or so of Americans who have german ancestry. Doesn't mean they directly descend from Spanish people but have spanish blood in them, mostly distant. You just have to look at the racial make up of the filipino people to realize that the Spanish component is not that big in ethnic terms.
          Most people probably 98% of people of south america are not directly descended from spain and have a mixed heritage.

          Just as Duran is but it is ok for him to be called Hispanic but not Pacquiao.

          In Brazil the national language is Portuguese not spanish, but Jorfe is consider Hispanic.

          Look at the Religion of the Philippines, Roman Catholic, Hmmm, Spanish influence you don't think.

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            #35
            Originally posted by talip bin osman
            carlos monzon?

            alexis arguello?

            julio cesar chavez?

            eder jofre?

            roberto duran?

            wilfredo gomez?


            roberto duran

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            • D4thincarnation
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              • Sangre Azteca
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                #37
                1. Duran
                2. Chavez
                3. Monzon

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                • RL_GMA
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                  #38


                  I think he also might've been up there, unfortunately we'll never know

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by D4thincarnation
                    Most people probably 98% of people of south america are not directly descended from spain and have a mixed heritage.

                    Just as Duran is but it is ok for him to be called Hispanic but not Pacquiao.

                    In Brazil the national language is Portuguese not spanish, but Jorfe is consider Hispanic.

                    Look at the Religion of the Philippines, Roman Catholic, Hmmm, Spanish influence you don't think.
                    The spreading of a certain religion has nothing whatsoever to do with it.

                    Even though Spain once claimed the Philippines as part of the Spanish Empire, their ethnic influence there is minimal. There was not as much racial mixing in the Philippines as there was in Latin America. Fewer than 10% of Filipino's can claim any real Spanish/Latin heritage. they are mostly Asian. Spain's main influences were Catholcism and to some extent, language..

                    They have a Hispanic cultural influence but that does not make them Hispanic they are Asians.
                    Last edited by -Lowkey-; 03-27-2012, 09:19 AM.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Check_hooks
                      Pacquiao is like superman compared to not only the best Hispanic fighters of all time but anyone whos ever walked the earth period. Pac has DEMOLISHED every single mexican fighter hes ever been in the ring with and that includes first ballot HOFers and ATG's.
                      Yea cause mexicans account for all the hispanic fighters in the sport.

                      So my question here is, if they don't consider filipinos Asian or Hispanic. What are they? For example on the Census survey what do they check off, Other? Or are they their own race, Filipinos...?

                      I personally DO NOT consider them hispanics.

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