Has Manny improved?

[HEZEKYHWH]

You just proved my point. You stans don't really mean it when you say all these things about Pac being amateurish, Floyd would beat the crap out of him and all that.

I'll keep it simple for you. Ask yourself, "What's in it for me if the fight doesn't happen?" Obviously, you don't get to see your boy beat the amateurish midget. You're stuck with fantasy fights. If you're satisfied with that, that's okay with me. I'm not the one saying Floyd would surely beat the amateur boxer. At the end of the day, the fight didn't happen. Did you gain anything from it? Nothing. You're robbed of seeing Floyd school Pac. If that's fine with you all the more so with me. I could laugh at your idol for being a pu55y for the rest of his life.

Thanks for the entertainment. ;-)

Whats in it for me???

LETS SEE, I CAN ADD A FEW BENJAMINS TO MY POCKETS BASED ON YOU NUT HUGGERS THAT THINK PAC HAS A CHANCE LOL.....

I MADE 7 K LAST FIGHT, I can easily make over 10 k with a bunch of ******s....

[al-Xander]

Whats in it for me???

LETS SEE, I CAN ADD A FEW BENJAMINS TO MY POCKETS BASED ON YOU NUT HUGGERS THAT THINK PAC HAS A CHANCE LOL.....

I MADE 7 K LAST FIGHT, I can easily make over 10 k with a bunch of ******s....

What garcia is simply saying is Floyd have been denying you guys the chance to see him turn your fantasies into realities, yet you still defend him like he's your boyfriend or something.

Hope that helps.

[junior gong]

Whats in it for me???

LETS SEE, I CAN ADD A FEW BENJAMINS TO MY POCKETS BASED ON YOU NUT HUGGERS THAT THINK PAC HAS A CHANCE LOL.....

I MADE 7 K LAST FIGHT, I can easily make over 10 k with a bunch of ******s....

Devastating irony.

[hugh grant]

This thread is solid proof that Floyd fans are the worst currently circulating the net. They will do absolutely anything to divert attention away from Floyd and his lack of dangerous fights policies. They are embarassed for floyd, so try take the spotlight off of him and put it on suprise, suprise Pac who is his most respect rival and peer.

[tatangb45]

just x1 observation... You havent mentioned anything about pacs improvements...

Oy, kumusta kabayan!

I guess, from your response, you failed to understand the point I was driving at. By showing the ****** contradictions in your arguments, my post actually exposed the kind of garbage you guys have been spewing.

Here, read the post again and if you still don't get it, you never will.

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showpost.php?p=11940099&postcount=61

[brick wall]

floyd stans are two-faced morons.

on one side, they believe pac needs to be tested because according to the preachings of their idol, you can't go from being an ordinary fighter to extraordinary.

on the other side, they portray pac as amateurish, one-handed, non-improving and carefully matched fighter.

these idiots are already trying to condition their minds in case the fight doesn't happen because floyd wants all the revenues to himself...that the fight doesn't really need to happen because floyd easily beats pac...in fantasy that is.

in fairness to some logical floyd fans, i do agree that floyd should be favored to beat pac but there's only one way to find out. unfortunately, it looks like we'll never get to find out and so we're gonna have to deal with all these ******ed floyd/pac debates in nsb as long as these morons doesn't get a job to keep them busy.

[McFearless]

Give one instance where Manny's technical improvement is evident.

Just one.

Manny is the same exact fighter he was in 2003.

Its not that he's improved at all.

Its that he was set up against guys that he could take more chances with.

Think about it.

We've all seen Clottey fight before. NEVER .. in ANY of his fights has he just covered up and made no attempt to attack.

We've all seen Mosley fight before. NEVER .. in ANY of his fights has Mosley spent the entire fight on his bicycle.

Win, lose or draw ... a fighter will perform the way he was trained. They will win that way, and they will lose that way.

You just don't see world class fighters coming in after 10-15 years in the game trying some totally new approach in a mega fight.

I've seen Mosley lose before his loss to Pacquiao. When Mosley looses, it looks like what happened against Vernon Forrest. Not that crap he did against Pacquiao.

Maybe some fans are fooled by that nonsense, but anyone in and around the game knows that EVERY boxer has habits, tells and a certain way of fighting when it gets thick.

When they begin looking like they are fighting their own instincts and style its clear that something is amiss.

Its easy to look good against men who refuse to fight back from the onset. Its also easy to look good against men who have adopted a plod forward/trade type of style if you can actually box and move.

So again, where is the evidence of improvement as it pertains to Pacquiao?

Is someone going to say that he throws a new punch? Seriously?

When we saw Manny Pacquiao embarrassed against JMM, how well did those "new" punches serve him? In order to be considered an improvement, the fighter has to have demonstrated success with something new.

Every time Pacquiao gets hit, he goes right back to doing what he's always done: Darting in passed an opponents left jab with a right jab and then immediately throws the straight left.

He's predictable, and that's the exact reason why JMM was so easily able to make him look the way he did in their last fight. It wasn't luck, magic or coincidence.

actually I saw one of clottey's early fights on espn classic or something and he was throwing a TON of bombs. got the KO. dont know why hes not more offensive minded, dude's got power.

but then again thats just one fight and I havent seen all his fights so yeah maybe it was just a one off thing...

[RL_GMA]

I understand.

I wasn't supposed to challenge your opinion and I was supposed to just accept your word as gospel.

Sorry that didn't work out for you.

Enjoy the cyber-coloring book.

It's more along the lines of trying to read a Bible and inevitably finding out there's no actual meaning / point...like the real Bible. The color font actually gives the Bible a bit of decor.

[Housed Fugitive]

This thread is solid proof that Manny fans are the worst currently circulating the net. They will do absolutely anything to divert attention away from Manny and his lack of dangerous fights policies. They are embarassed for manny so try take the spotlight off of him and put it on suprise, suprise Floyd who is his most respect rival and peer.

[Larry the boss]

damn this thread still going.