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  • Roman Moreno
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    #21
    For all the jokes you can make about Bradley and headbutts. One thing is for sure. He is a proven fighter. And, a good fighter, with great intangibles. Very strong, mentally who has a will and finds a way to win.

    For all the tools that Ortiz might possess. He is a very mentally weak fighter. And, somewhat of a front runner as well. He is a good loser, a Clottey, a Judah. Overall like Clottey and Judah he is average at best.

    Give me Bradley>>>Ortiz any day of the week.

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    • Mister Wolf
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      #22
      Originally posted by reneg_2
      Thanks. Just taking a young buck to school. Feels good. haha.
      u proved nothing. bradley has fought and beat the better competition. you call them triangle theories. i call them comparable wins and losses.

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      • reneg_2
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        #23
        Originally posted by Roman Moreno
        For all the jokes you can make about Bradley and headbutts. One thing is for sure. He is a proven fighter. And, a good fighter, with great intangibles. Very strong, mentally who has a will and finds a way to win.

        For all the tools that Ortiz might possess. He is a very mentally weak fighter. And, somewhat of a front runner as well. He is a good loser, a Clottey, a Judah. Overall like Clottey and Judah he is average at best.

        Give me Bradley>>>Ortiz any day of the week.
        As much of a mental edge Bradley might have you also have to take in consideration that come fight night Ortiz will blow up to 160. Bradley doesn't look like he can carry that weight and still be as athletic. Bradley might be around 152-154 come fight night and look too heavy. Taking everything into consideration, I'd take Ortiz. Not saying Bradley doesn't have his moments. It'd be a war. People forget, in the midst of the mental collapse, that Ortiz went toe to toe with Maidana, something few do, and sent him to the canvas 3 times I believe.

        So, after some seasoning, I believe Ortiz can finish a boxer like Bradley. Bradley only comes forward.

        Give me Ortiz over Bradley any day of the week. Size advantage is the difference.

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        • reneg_2
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          #24
          Originally posted by Mister Wolf
          u proved nothing. bradley has fought and beat the better competition. you call them triangle theories. i call them comparable wins and losses.
          I call that ****** theory.

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          • Roy Keane
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            #25
            Ortiz by KO/UD, berto is better than bradley at 147lbs ortiz is a true welter weight big fast and powerful, bradley isnt near the level of mayweather so easy night for ortiz.

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            • hogey
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              #26
              Bradley is a different class than Ortiz, he would outbox and outwork him on the way to a comfortable UD.

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              • bojangles1987
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                #27
                Originally posted by reneg_2
                As much of a mental edge Bradley might have you also have to take in consideration that come fight night Ortiz will blow up to 160. Bradley doesn't look like he can carry that weight and still be as athletic. Bradley might be around 152-154 come fight night and look too heavy. Taking everything into consideration, I'd take Ortiz. Not saying Bradley doesn't have his moments. It'd be a war. People forget, in the midst of the mental collapse, that Ortiz went toe to toe with Maidana, something few do, and sent him to the canvas 3 times I believe.

                So, after some seasoning, I believe Ortiz can finish a boxer like Bradley. Bradley only comes forward.

                Give me Ortiz over Bradley any day of the week. Size advantage is the difference.
                Wrong. Completely wrong. Again, I wonder how many people on this site have seen Bradley fight outside of Alexander.

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                • Roman Moreno
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by reneg_2
                  As much of a mental edge Bradley might have you also have to take in consideration that come fight night Ortiz will blow up to 160. Bradley doesn't look like he can carry that weight and still be as athletic. Bradley might be around 152-154 come fight night and look too heavy. Taking everything into consideration, I'd take Ortiz. Not saying Bradley doesn't have his moments. It'd be a war. People forget, in the midst of the mental collapse, that Ortiz went toe to toe with Maidana, something few do, and sent him to the canvas 3 times I believe.

                  So, after some seasoning, I believe Ortiz can finish a boxer like Bradley. Bradley only comes forward.

                  Give me Ortiz over Bradley any day of the week. Size advantage is the difference.
                  Bro saying "taking everything into consideration" and then just mentioning size is not taking everything into consideration.

                  Whether he sent Maidana to the canvas is irrelevant. Madiana isn't that good either BTW. Fact is in that fight he showed how mentally weak was. In the Floyd fight he showed it once more. Again take everything into consideration.

                  Looked terrible in the Campbell fight. I mentioned he is a frontrunner, since I like to take everything into consideration. He dropped Peterson twice early in the fight. And, then let Peterson get back in it.

                  Anyone knows anything about Ortiz. Knows Ortiz lack of heart. That was questioned before the Miadana fight. Because, there was rumors about it in the sparring and his previous training camp.

                  Taking everything into consideration(and just worrying about size ) you take Ortiz everyday of the week and look foolish everyday. I will take the better overall fighter who is clearly Bradley everyday of the week.

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                  • Mister Wolf
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                    #29
                    ortiz wouldn't even beat devon alexander.

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                    • IronDanHamza
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                      #30
                      I think it's a good fight I'd love to see it.

                      I think Bradley would win by Decision.

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