The Boxing Truth Compuclinch Video - 118 Clinches by Molina

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  • BoxingGenius27
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    #21
    Originally posted by Yogi007
    Watch the Zab fight. Every time Paris tried to clinch, look what zab did to him.

    I am not sticking up for Molina, but someone can only clinch like that if their opponent allows them to.
    I honestly don't care what Zab did. Vernon Paris isn't Carlos Molina.

    Again, if Kirkland body slammed Molina, would you blame Molina for not defending the body slam?

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      #22
      yes it was awful but it don't explain why Kirkland looked like shit in there

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        #23
        Originally posted by 4CornersKid
        I actually agree with you for once man. What Kirkland did in the 10th round, when Molina tried to hold for the 100th time, he pushed him off of him and went to kick his a$$, and he hurt Molina in that round big time. Molina held Kirkland 16 times in the 10th round, that's ridiculous. It was borderline Akinwande-Lewis type s**t. Molina straight up looked like a small John Ruiz out there.

        I don't get why Lederman gets on other people for holding, but didn't with Molina when it was way worse??
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        i'm pretty sure lederman has been trying to get fired for the last 10+ years. that's the only way to explain it.

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          #24
          Originally posted by Yogi007
          Exactly. Molina was only able to clinch because Kirkland allowed him to do it.
          Yes, its Kirkland's job to stop Molina's spoiler tactics and implement his own gameplan and he failed because he doesn't have a great deal of skill.

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            #25
            Originally posted by snoopymiller
            I don't really see your point. Paris rarely ever tried to clinch Judah

            No he didn't try to clinch nearly as much, but my point is that when it did try, Zab was smart enough to know how to not only how prevent it, but he knew how to take advantage of it. Paris might have even tried even more if he didn't get busted up every time he tried.

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              #26
              Originally posted by Spray_resistant
              Yes, its Kirkland's job to stop Molina's spoiler tactics and implement his own gameplan and he failed because he doesn't have a great deal of skill.
              Kirkland's body slam could've been his tactic at stopping Molina's excessive clinching. Is it Molina's fault for not defending the body slam?

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                #27
                Man alot of those were head first clinches. Just di****able.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by BoxingGenius27
                  Kirkland's body slam could've been his tactic at stopping Molina's excessive clinching. Is it Molina's fault for not defending the body slam?
                  There are other ways of stopping them other than blatant fouls and Kirkland doesn't know how so its his fault.

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                    #29
                    You can't defend when you have on boxing gloves and a guys trapping one arm between his armpits and the other arm with his biceps.

                    I'd love to see someone punch their way out of that LMAO

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by BoxingGenius27
                      I honestly don't care what Zab did. Vernon Paris isn't Carlos Molina.

                      Again, if Kirkland body slammed Molina, would you blame Molina for not defending the body slam?
                      Again, if Kirkland wouldn't allowed him to clinch, then it wouldn't have happened.

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