The Boxing Truth Compuclinch Video - 118 Clinches by Molina

[Yogi007]

The other side of the coin is that Kirkland sucks and has no fighting ability. If he has an ounce of fighting ability, he would have been able to keep Molina From clinching all the time. I hate Zab Judah, but at least he knows to shake people off that are clinching and not only that, he knows how to take advantage of it.

Yes, it bugs me when people clinch all the time, but it also bugs me when someone expect the ref to do all the work for them.

[BoxingGenius27]

Damn, I love this video. You just saved me some work.

Secondly, fck Ledderman for getting on Alexander but not Molina.

That's 118 clinches in a 10 round fight. But what's more important than the BS clinching, is the lack of activity (inside fighting) after the clinch.

You can't pay me to believe that people advocating 118 clinches with no infighting during a 10 round fight don't have an agenda.

That's 11 clinches a round. Let's say each clinch lasted 10-15 seconds; that's almost 2:00 - 2:30 each round of clinching. There's only 3 minutes in a round.

That = 7-10 minutes of fighting and 20-23 minutes of clinching. WTF is that?

Broken down even further, that = 2-3 rounds of boxing and 7-8 rounds of clinching!

We might as well have paid to see a clinching match instead of a boxing match.

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This sport is running on fumes.

[BoxingGenius27]

The other side of the coin is that Kirkland sucks and has no fighting ability. If he has an ounce of fighting ability, he would have been able to keep Molina From clinching all the time. I hate Zab Judah, but at least he knows to shake people off that are clinching and not only that, he knows how to take advantage of it.

Yes, it bugs me when people clinch all the time, but it also bugs me when someone expect the ref to do all the work for them.

If kirkland started body slamming Molina on the mat, would it be Molina's fault for not having take down defense?

[4Corners]

30 minutes is 1800 seconds. Not taking into account that Molina was holding him probably at the very least 5 seconds and at the most 10-15 seconds each time, do the math.

118 clinches in 1800 seconds means that Molina grabbed and held Kirkland every 15 seconds, not even taking into account that he held him between 5-15 seconds each time, held his arm under his armpit and punched him, forced his forward onto Kirklands head, hit on the break constantly, and tried to hold onto the rope while laying on Kirkland when he was hurt in the 10th.

At least Andre Ward fights when he's in a clinch, the only punching Molina does when he was holding Kirkland was when he pinned Kirklands arm under his armpit and would hit him with the right hand.

[Yogi007]

we all know molina is a b-itch but what surprises me is that kirkland just let him do that. i guess chad dawson is more street than kirkland. kirkland should have started pushing and elbowing the s-hit out of molina but he just stood there like a zombie.

Exactly. Molina was only able to clinch because Kirkland allowed him to do it.

[4Corners]

we all know molina is a b-itch but what surprises me is that kirkland just let him do that. i guess chad dawson is more street than kirkland. kirkland should have started pushing and elbowing the s-hit out of molina but he just stood there like a zombie.

I actually agree with you for once man. What Kirkland did in the 10th round, when Molina tried to hold for the 100th time, he pushed him off of him and went to kick his a$$, and he hurt Molina in that round big time. Molina held Kirkland 16 times in the 10th round, that's ridiculous. It was borderline Akinwande-Lewis type s**t. Molina straight up looked like a small John Ruiz out there.

I don't get why Lederman gets on other people for holding, but didn't with Molina when it was way worse???

[Yogi007]

If kirkland started body slamming Molina on the mat, would it be Molina's fault for not having take down defense?

Watch the Zab fight. Every time Paris tried to clinch, look what zab did to him.

I am not sticking up for Molina, but someone can only clinch like that if their opponent allows them to.

[BoxingGenius27]

TS just showed us a 7:30 video of CLINCHING. That's just clinching, that's not even counting how long Molina was clinching.

That's 2 and a half rounds of boxing, just in clinches alone. When you add how long Molina was clinching, that puts us at or around 7-8 rounds of CLINCHING; not fighting, but clinching.

I've seen HOF'ers with highlight reels of their careers that are shorter than Molina's clinching video in one fight.

[snoopymiller]

Watch the Zab fight. Every time Paris tried to clinch, look what zab did to him.

I am not sticking up for Molina, but someone can only clinch like that if their opponent allows them to.

I don't really see your point. Paris rarely ever tried to clinch Judah