Floyd is undefeated because he works the hardest

[Jack Napier]

can't stand floyd but he's still better then pac and is unbeaten whilst pac has 3 Losses and very decisive ones at that

no one disputes Floyd is better than Pac
we're talking about greatness here
Floyd is the better fighter, Pac is the greater fighter
Pac's losses don't deny him his greatness
2 of them were when he was a damn kid

Castillo was close, so was Marquez. A lot of people felt Floyd and Pac beat Marquez and Castillo. That's a fact, so you can't have it both ways.

we're talking about what we saw, not what the judges said
dude, Castillo overpowered Floyd, he won clearly
Pac beat JMM, closely, but also clearly
the 1st fight was decisive, 7-5 Pac plus KD points
2nd fight woulda been a draw without the KD
that 3rd round stole Pac the fight
neither guy dominated the 3rd fight
both guys did ok, Pac just underperformed
JMM bested the expectations of his performance
that opens the door for people to complain
wouldn't argue if JMM got the 3rd fight, but he lost

[CHOWWOKKA]

even fight, JMM got knocked down, he lost by a point
deal with it

And Floyd is undefeated
Deal with it

[Jack Napier]

And Floyd is undefeated
Deal with it

don't have a problem with Floyd claiming he's undefeated
the man can say whatever he wants
but we saw him get beat by Castillo the 1st time and get a gift
not arguing Floyd's record, arguing the merit of his 1st JLC "win"

[thuggery]

no one disputes Floyd is better than Pac
we're talking about greatness here
Floyd is the better fighter, Pac is the greater fighter
Pac's losses don't deny him his greatness
2 of them were when he was a damn kid



we're talking about what we saw, not what the judges said
dude, Castillo overpowered Floyd, he won clearly
Pac beat JMM, closely, but also clearly
the 1st fight was decisive, 7-5 Pac plus KD points
2nd fight woulda been a draw without the KD
that 3rd round stole Pac the fight
neither guy dominated the 3rd fight
both guys did ok, Pac just underperformed
JMM bested the expectations of his performance
that opens the door for people to complain
wouldn't argue if JMM got the 3rd fight, but he lost

Well I, along with 90% of NSB and credible boxing sources saw Marquez beat Pacquiao.

So there we have it, Marquez beat Pac.

[turbotime]

And Floyd is undefeated
Deal with it

That's all it is. His biases are a bit too transparent to be taken seriously.

[turbotime]

Well I, along with 90% of NSB and credible boxing sources saw Marquez beat Pacquiao.

So there we have it, Marquez beat Pac.

Exactly this.

[CHOWWOKKA]

don't have a problem with Floyd claiming he's undefeated
the man can say whatever he wants
but we saw him get beat by Castillo the 1st time and get a gift
not arguing Floyd's record, arguing the merit of his 1st JLC "win"

Nobody is claiming anything. It is a FAKT!!
Check boxrec br0

[turbotime]

no one disputes Floyd is better than Pac
we're talking about greatness here
Floyd is the better fighter, Pac is the greater fighter
Pac's losses don't deny him his greatness
2 of them were when he was a damn kid



we're talking about what we saw, not what the judges said
dude, Castillo overpowered Floyd, he won clearly
Pac beat JMM, closely, but also clearly
the 1st fight was decisive, 7-5 Pac plus KD points
2nd fight woulda been a draw without the KD
that 3rd round stole Pac the fight
neither guy dominated the 3rd fight
both guys did ok, Pac just underperformed
JMM bested the expectations of his performance
that opens the door for people to complain
wouldn't argue if JMM got the 3rd fight, but he lost

I saw Marquez outboxing Pacquiao throughout the fights.

[Jack Napier]

Well I, along with 90% of NSB and credible boxing sources saw Marquez beat Pacquiao.

So there we have it, Marquez beat Pac.

you defend what you saw, not other people
back it up, tell us in detail what you saw, break it down

That's all it is. His biases are a bit too transparent to be taken seriously.

don't cop out, we're having a good talk here
no gayweather vs Pacroid bullshit, come with real observations
defend your stance, how did Floyd beat Castillo?

[Jack Napier]

I saw Marquez outboxing Pacquiao throughout the fights.

you saw this the entire fight all 3 times?
if that's what you're saying, we can end this debate
you think JMM shut Pac out, stopped him from doing anything at all?