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  • #71
    Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
    Add the fact that Maweather was contracted to HBO and Tszyu was contracted to Showtime at that point.

    It's a fight that simply wasn't available.
    Yeah I remember that too, I know Tsyzu wanted to fight Gatti at the time because Main event's Kathy Duva was talking about it, There was basically zero time for Mayweather/Tsyzu would have happen at that time.

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    • #72
      Originally posted by vironaprile8 View Post
      lol, If hatton had tsyzu ref for his fight with mayweather do you think he would of won?
      Nah, He would have need his step-dad for that one MICKY VANN but even then he would still end up headhunting the ringpost like the glorified club fighter he is.

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      • #73
        floyd fought all the best fighters who were willing to fight him back.

        he never really ducked anyone, stevie johnston is the only one you can make a solid case for and maybe theres a weak case for cotto in his prime as well. but knowing how easily floyd would have disposed of miguel even at his peak and how arum for a fact refused to let cotto fight floyd at 140 its a weak case.

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        • #74
          yep except 140

          130-henendez
          135-castillo
          147-baldo
          154-cotto

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          • #75
            Originally posted by #1Assassin View Post
            floyd fought all the best fighters who were willing to fight him back.

            he never really ducked anyone, stevie johnston is the only one you can make a solid case for and maybe theres a weak case for cotto in his prime as well. but knowing how easily floyd would have disposed of miguel even at his peak and how arum for a fact refused to let cotto fight floyd at 140 its a weak case.
            Stevie Johnston was underrated. Floyd wasn't in the division at the time though.

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            • #76
              Mayweather tried to fight Hatton at 140 and they told him they werent ready so he moved up.

              Mayweather was lineal champ at 147. Shane Mosley was the number 1 welterweight in the world after stopping Margarito. Pac wouldnt fight Shane at that time. Pac never fought the best welterweight.

              He fought Cotto, Margo and Mosley all coming off of losses. None of them were considered the best at the time he fought them. Oscar hadnt fought at 147 is almost 10 years and wasnt even ranked.
              Last edited by elfag; 03-21-2012, 03:50 PM.

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              • #77
                At 130: Yes. Genaro and Corrales were the best guys there no doubt.

                At 135: Yes. Castillo was the best LW of his era.

                At 140: No. Gatti was a good fight but he didn't end up fighting Tszyu or Hatton there. Though he got Hatton in 07' anyway. Tszyu, they were negotiating that fight to happen after Floyd-Gatti and Tszyu-Hatton, but Kostya lost, oh well.

                At 147: Well Pac and Floyd are both Co-#1, so neither really have fought the "Top" because they are the top. But, aside from them, I'd say yes to both guys. Pac fought Cotto, and Floyd fought Mosley and Ortiz when they were ranked at the Top of the division aside from Manny and Floyd themselves.

                At 154: Yes. Cotto is the #1 SWW right now, the best fight that could have been made.

                Pacquiao-

                At 112: Yes. Sasakul was the best guy there at the time.

                At 122: No. Ledwaba was a good fight and so was Lucero. But, from 2001-2003, Joan Guzman and Oscar Larios were the best SBW there. He would end up fighting Larios later on, but only after Larios lost.

                At 126: Yes. Barrera was the best guy there no doubt.

                At 130: No and yes. Morales was a good fight, but he only beat him after losing to Raheem. Marquez was probably the best SFW though in 2008 when they rematched. But, from 2005-2008, Manny didn't fight Valero or Guzman, the other Top SFW's there.

                At 135: No. Diaz was a good fight, but at the time, Nate Campbell was probably the best LW after beating Juan Diaz.

                At 140: Yes. Hatton was the RING champ and unbeaten at that weight. But, an argument can easily be made that Devon Alexander and Timothy Bradley were champions at 140 in 2009 and were probably better at that time than Hatton.

                At 147: Pac and Floyd are both Co-#1, and they haven't fought each other. But, aside from them, Pac did beat Cotto who was one of the best WW's.

                At 154/150: No. Margarito was a go awful fight for a vacant title. Dzinziruk was probably the best there. Either him or Cotto in late 2010. Yuri Foreman had already lost to Cotto earlier in the year and Sergio had left 154 by late 2010.
                Last edited by 4Corners; 03-21-2012, 05:04 PM.

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                • #78
                  Originally posted by #1Assassin View Post
                  floyd fought all the best fighters who were willing to fight him back.

                  he never really ducked anyone, stevie johnston is the only one you can make a solid case for and maybe theres a weak case for cotto in his prime as well. but knowing how easily floyd would have disposed of miguel even at his peak and how arum for a fact refused to let cotto fight floyd at 140 its a weak case.
                  Stevie had lost a close fight to Castillo though and Floyd fought Castillo. Floyd didn't duck Stevie. He didn't with Tszyu either. They were negotiating back in 2005 for a Floyd-Tszyu fight, but Floyd beat Gatti and tszyu lost to Hatton, who floyd fought in 07', oh well. And Floyd wanted to fight Cotto and called him out during 04-06 but Top Rank said they were saving that fight and that he wasn't ready for Floyd. They are fighting now anyway after Cotto left TR, oh well. Mosley was also someone Floyd wanted in 05-06 but Shane's tooth hurt too bad. Floyd got him later on when Shane had just KO'd Margarito and was in the Top P4P after that, oh well.

                  Margarito....we all know the story. It did happen after Floyd split from TR though, and people need to look at that was a major factor why that didn't happen. Floyd is got Mosley who beat Margarito and is getting Cotto, who beat Margarito, oh well.

                  People spend too much time on this. How about all the guys Floyd did whup??? Genaro, Manfredy, Corrales, Gerena, C. Hernandez, Chavez, Gatti, Judah, Baldomir, De La Hoya, Hatton, Marquez, Mosley, Ortiz, and now Cotto probably. A pretty damn good resume.

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                  • #79
                    Originally posted by 4CornersKid View Post
                    At 130: Yes. Genaro and Corrales were the best guys there no doubt.

                    At 135: Yes. Castillo was the best LW of his era.

                    At 140: No. Gatti was a good fight but he didn't end up fighting Tszyu or Hatton there. Though he got Hatton in 07' anyway. Tszyu, they were negotiating that fight to happen after Floyd-Gatti and Tszyu-Hatton, but Kostya lost, oh well.

                    At 147: Well Pac and Floyd are both Co-#1, so neither really have fought the "Top" because they are the top. But, aside from them, I'd say yes to both guys. Pac fought Cotto, and Floyd fought Mosley and Ortiz when they were ranked at the Top of the division aside from Manny and Floyd themselves.

                    At 154: Yes. Cotto is the #1 SWW right now, the best fight that could have been made.

                    Pacquiao-

                    At 112: Yes. Sasakul was the best guy there at the time.

                    At 122: No. Ledwaba was a good fight and so was Lucero. But, from 2001-2003, Joan Guzman and Oscar Larios were the best SBW there. He would end up fighting Larios later on, but only after Larios lost.

                    At 126: Yes. Barrera was the best guy there no doubt.

                    At 130: No and yes. Morales was a good fight, but he only beat him after losing to Raheem. Marquez was probably the best SFW though in 2008 when they rematched. But, from 2005-2008, Manny didn't fight Valero or Guzman, the other Top SFW's there.

                    At 135: No. Diaz was a good fight, but at the time, Nate Campbell was probably the best LW after beating Juan Diaz.

                    At 140: Yes. Hatton was the RING champ and unbeaten at that weight. But, an argument can easily be made that Devon Alexander and Timothy Bradley were champions at 140 in 2009 and were probably better at that time than Hatton.

                    At 147: Pac and Floyd are both Co-#1, and they haven't fought each other. But, aside from them, Pac did beat Cotto who was one of the best WW's.

                    At 154/150: No. Margarito was a go awful fight for a vacant title. Dzinziruk was probably the best there. Either him or Cotto in late 2010. Yuri Foreman had already lost to Cotto earlier in the year and Sergio had left 154 by late 2010.
                    Nice breakdown.

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                    • #80
                      Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View Post
                      False.....
                      It is true. Oscar De La Hoya was ranked #1 at 154 when Mayweather fought him. In fact, he was the only quality fighter at 154 when Mayweather fought him. He didn't fight Kostya Tyszu at 140 because Tyszu chose to fight Hatton instead. Unless you have some evidence to dispute this, quit acting like a Re/Pa.ctard.

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