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  • #41
    Originally posted by BoxingGenius27 View Post
    Kirkland has a damn good jab, can cut off the ring and can throw some leather. Kirkland isn't Darren Barker and Macklin.

    I agree he runs the chance of getting KO'd because of his style, like anyone else who fights Martinez.

    But Kirkland has the x-factor. Do you know what the x-factor is? Anne Wolfe.

    Anne Wolfe will beat/prepare Kirkland 10x worse than anything Martinez could ever do. Kirkland might be walking down the street and Anne Wolfe will hop out a bush and clock him with a straight right, just to make sure he can take punches he can't see coming.

    The question is, what will Martinez do when he's getting tagged by bombs, while his opponent is taking his best shots?
    Lol, I don't doubt i.t. I love Kirkland man, but this fight is terrible for him, just terrible. Kirkland is a fighter that would be tailor made to make Martinez look great. Just a bad style matchup for Kirkland.

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    • #42
      Originally posted by jsfd26 View Post
      I don't think you can train a chin :P. If you can't take a shot to the face you just can't take it and best thing you can do is try to avoid them. For example, Amir Khan has no chin but his style is more suitable to try and avoid those big shots but not Kirkland's. Also, I think that first fight vs Williams Martinez showed us he can take some pretty good shots.

      And all that stuff you pointed out might be exactly why Kirkland's body might not last too long in this sport especially if he starts getting KO'ed or being in wars like that one round with Angulo.
      I was kidding about the bushes part.

      But you can strengthen your neck and endurance; which strengthens your chin and ability to recover from shots quickly.

      Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View Post
      You're overrating Anne Wolfe almost as much as you're overrating Kirkland
      Only time will tell. Besides Kirkland's hickup against Ishida, I'm not that far off.

      You call Kirkland overrated, but Canelo doesn't or else he would've fought him already.

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      • #43
        Originally posted by chav View Post
        I have 50M that says Molina takes care of Kirkland and nulls the conversation of Sergio vs Kirkland.
        Martinez will eat up Kirklands pressure and smoke him so easily i would be shocked if it went past round 5.

        Fancy that Molina vs Kirkland bet? You could double your points if you are right
        Let's do it. You're on my friend. 50 MIL.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by jsfd26 View Post
          Erm I think its been pointed out that Martinez problems are guys with tight D who don't pressure. Something like Rigo's problem. One way we can prove this is, look at the way Macklin came out. That's not his usual style but they changed it up and Martinez was having problems and had to adjust.
          I think if Kirkland chin holds up like P-Will did in the first Martinez fight he can wear him down and KO him in the late rounds

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          • #45
            Originally posted by MrClutch85 View Post
            I think if Kirkland chin holds up like P-Will did in the first Martinez fight he can wear him down and KO him in the late rounds

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            • #46
              be still, my heart


              kirkland and martinez would be flippin anarchy
              bedlam
              and a blast to watch


              perhaps only second to kirkland and floyd, who would make great theatre given the styles and the gap in size.
              floyd would have to fight damn hard and it would bring the best out of him

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              • #47
                Originally posted by New England View Post
                be still, my heart


                kirkland and martinez would be flippin anarchy
                bedlam
                and a blast to watch


                perhaps only second to kirkland and floyd, who would make great theatre given the styles and the gap in size.
                floyd would have to fight damn hard and it would bring the best out of him
                I'd still rather see Kirkland-Alvarez and Martinez-Lara. Lara, who whupped Williams, has said numerous times that he'd be more then willing to fight Martinez at 160.

                I still want to see Kirkland-Alvarez and the winner fight Floyd. Probably just because I want to see Kirkland-Floyd so much.

                On a side note, can't wait for Kirkland-Molina this weekend. Kirkland is just a different guy with Anne. I know he went down from a right hand against Angulo, but he got up and stayed in there. Weathered the storm and whupped Angulo's a$$. You can say "Angulo gassed" but Kirkland still had to survive that round and than turn the tide at the end of the round. Oh and he was in Angulo's backyard, and Alfredo was easily one of the most feared fighters in boxing at that time.

                Kirkland-Sergio is just a bad match up of styles for Kirkland. I love how Sergio has absolutely zero interest in fighting Erislandy Lara, who whupped Williams.
                Last edited by 4Corners; 03-20-2012, 10:58 AM.

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by 4CornersKid View Post
                  I'd still rather see Kirkland-Alvarez and Martinez-Lara. Lara, who whupped Williams, has said numerous times that he'd be more then willing to fight Martinez at 160.

                  I still want to see Kirkland-Alvarez and the winner fight Floyd. Probably just because I want to see Kirkland-Floyd so much.
                  Kirkland wouldn't get past...Canelo...

                  he might not even get passed Molina tbh

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by 4CornersKid View Post
                    I'd still rather see Kirkland-Alvarez and Martinez-Lara. Lara, who whupped Williams, has said numerous times that he'd be more then willing to fight Martinez at 160.

                    I still want to see Kirkland-Alvarez and the winner fight Floyd. Probably just because I want to see Kirkland-Floyd so much.


                    kirkland and alvarez would be a cant miss fight in terms of action


                    lara has certainly earned his stripes at this stage, but he and williams would probably make for a boring fight

                    two counterpunchers, southpaws, and two guys not used to fighting a guy who can deal with the speed.

                    i think they'd look at eachother all night and martinez would dance around the ring once in a while

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by MANIAC310 View Post
                      Kirkland wouldn't get past...Canelo...

                      he might not even get passed Molina tbh
                      We'll never know as long as Canelo is fighting WW.

                      I'd love to see what Canelo does under pressure in a big fight when he gets tagged by someone like Kirkland. We've seen evidence that Kirkland can bounce back while being down, just look at the Angulo fight.

                      I find it funny that Kirkland has to beat Angulo, Molina, and Vanes, to get his shot against Canelo. But, all Shane had to do was get whipped by Floyd, fight a draw with Mora, and get whupped by Pacquiao, and he's contending for a title at 154 now. How do you explain that???

                      If Canelo wanted to prove something, he should have fought Vanes after the Rhodes fight, and than the Cintron fight was okay to me for a quick stay busy fight last year. And he should have fought Rodriguez on the Floyd undercard. If he had those wins on there, he'd get more respect.
                      Last edited by 4Corners; 03-20-2012, 11:03 AM.

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