Comments Thread For: Merchant: Martinez is Lucky To Get 10% With Mayweather

[4Corners]

The one thing Larry is right about, is that Sergio and his handlers seem to have zero problems fighting Chavez Jr, who comes into the ring weighing 180+, basically a SMW or LHW. But, he doesn't want to fight an Andre Ward or Lucian Bute at 168??? Julio is as big, if not bigger, than Ward or Bute. That's the worst excuse. If he can't get Floyd or Manny to fight him, than he should fight Ward or Bute.

[b0ndsj0ns20]

I've never seen a guy who's won his last 4 fights by KO take as much criticism as he does. He fought IMO the second best MW in the world last night and had a little trouble early but then finished him. Since I don't think there is any way Jr ever fights him I'd like to see him either drop to 54 or fight one of the 68's. I'd personally love to see him fight Lara or Kirkland, but I don't see him thinking either of those fights are worth the risk for the money.

[Atreyu Khalil]

how much did Ortiz get to face Floyd? Well, Martinez should get about 3 times that then

[Roman Moreno]

Based on what?

Ortiz beat a reigning #2WW champion when he fought Berto.

Martinez beat Pavlik after Pavlik got humiliated by BHOP and PWILL after PWILL had gotten exposed by Quintana and had a win over him.
in his fight before that as well.

Wait...what are you insinuating that Ortiz>Martinez?

[Roman Moreno]

The one thing Larry is right about, is that Sergio and his handlers seem to have zero problems fighting Chavez Jr, who comes into the ring weighing 180+, basically a SMW or LHW. But, he doesn't want to fight an Andre Ward or Lucian Bute at 168??? Julio is as big, if not bigger, than Ward or Bute. That's the worst excuse. If he can't get Floyd or Manny to fight him, than he should fight Ward or Bute.

Because, Martinez limit is 160. He is a small MW. He doesn't want to move higher. If Chavez Jr is as big if not bigger than Ward or Bute. Have Ward and Bute come down to 160 like Chavez is doing. Obviously they can do it if Chavez if Chavez can no?

[4Corners]

Because, Martinez limit is 160. He is a small MW. He doesn't want to move higher. If Chavez Jr is as big if not bigger than Ward or Bute. Have Ward and Bute come down to 160 like Chavez is doing. Obviously they can do it if Chavez if Chavez can no?

C'mon man. If Sergio can't get Floyd or Manny, he should have no problems fighting Andre Ward or Lucian Bute. Julio and Andre are both 6'0'' and Lucian is 6'1 1/2''.

I think Floyd should 100% go for Sergio at 154, if he and Manny can't get their s**t straight, or even go for Sergio at 160, but that'd never happen. But, if Sergio can't get those fights with Floyd, Manny, Cotto, than why not just go to fight Ward or Bute??? Julio weighs as much, if not more, than Ward and Bute on fight night. So, he can't really say he's too small for Ward or Bute but not for Julio, when they are right around the same size basically. Sergio has no obligation to fight them, I'm just saying that's the ONLY THING Maerchant has a legit point about.

[Atreyu Khalil]

Based on what?

Ortiz beat a reigning #2WW champion when he fought Berto.

Martinez beat Pavlik after Pavlik got humiliated by BHOP and PWILL after PWILL had gotten exposed by Quintana and had a win over him.

Why do fans say make such exaggerated and extremely unfounded statements?

After last night's performance, I hate to say it but Merchant is right on this one.

Are you seriously implying that this guy is boxing like a P4P#3???????

This is why I hate subjective lists. they open up a can of worms that lead to DUMBSHlT like this.

It allows people who have no reasons to write what they do to nominate ANYONE as the best, and they have no responsibility to back it up.

This isn't a case of having an off night. Martinez looked less than world class in his fight before that as well. The questions and su****ions that were born in the Barker fight were not answered last night.

I don't understand how anyone could call this man P4P when it was truly Macklin's lack of conditioning that lost him the fight and Martinez' superior conditioning that won it for him.

ANYONE can look like they've adjusted and they are "turning it up" once their opponent's are completely gassed.

Some of you seriously don't watch or understand boxing.

Once a fighter is gassed but refuses to quit, what can he do but weather the storm or hope to land a hail mary shot? Macklin wasn't impressive as a boxer, but his approach basically laid a blueprint to how to beat Martinez.

If you fight from behind your jab and pump it .. if you keep your hands up especially after throwing .. if you move to your right after landing and throw a left hook .. Martinez is reduced to pot-shotting and running.

Rewatch the fight. Macklin is taking the fight by storm by any measure. But he's doing enough to score and stay in the fight and even eventually takes the lead. Macklin is a limited fighter, but his approach wasn't meant to display any god given skill. It was meant to nullify Sergio's approach IF AND ONLY IF he kept doing the things that were keeping him in the fight from the beginning.

Matt gave up head movement that was making Sergio miss.

Matt gave up jabbing that made Sergio retreat and opened up opportunities for him Matt to score.

Matt gave began following Sergio around because he got impatient because he knew he didn't have much left.

Matt gave up going for bodyshots at that point in favor or hail mary headshots because he needed to land something big real fast because he was gassing after the 8th.

Nothing Sergio supposedly adapted to forced Macklin to make those mistakes .. and I challenge anyone to discuss what Sergio did to turn the tide aside from simply outlasting Macklin's conditioning.

If Macklin could have conceivably finished the fight strong, he was in a position to get a draw or a win before the 11th round knockdowns. And anyone watching the fight saw that Macklin was simply plodding forward and throwing sloppy shots by that point. He wasn't the same guy as he was from round 3-8.

Sergio Martinez's last two performances were no better than Devon Alexander's performances against Lucas Matthysse and Andriy Kotelnyk.

The real difference being a willingness to honestly critique a performance on the merits and not on how much you like a guy.

Because so many believe that Sergio is better than he is despite him only having two noteworthy wins in 50+ fights, some feel the need to defend him when there is no defense.

I usually HATE the HBO telecast. I'm notoriously one of their biggest haters. But they were calling what happened last night right.

Sergio definitely won, but his performance showed that he was absolutely nothing special. And as Lampley pointed out, someone close to Sergio in his own camp expressed that there is reason to be concerned about Martinez' ability to win fights nowadays.

[Atreyu Khalil]

Wait...what are you insinuating that Ortiz>Martinez?

I think he is insinuating that Ortiz has a larger fan base which he does.

[cordillera]

Wtf was merchants problem, hated on martinez and was macklins nuts the whole fight. Martinez knocked out a good tough fighter again, and merchant talks about him like was chavezjr.

[Roman Moreno]

C'mon man. If Sergio can't get Floyd or Manny, he should have no problems fighting Andre Ward or Lucian Bute. Julio and Andre are both 6'0'' and Lucian is 6'1 1/2''.

I think Floyd should 100% go for Sergio at 154, if he and Manny can't get their s**t straight, or even go for Sergio at 160, but that'd never happen. But, if Sergio can't get those fights with Floyd, Manny, Cotto, than why not just go to fight Ward or Bute??? Julio weighs as much, if not more, than Ward and Bute on fight night. So, he can't really say he's too small for Ward or Bute but not for Julio, when they are right around the same size basically. Sergio has no obligation to fight them, I'm just saying that's the ONLY THING Maerchant has a legit point about.

I understand the rest. But, what weight-class is Chavez fight at? 160 right. If he is the same size as Bute and Ward or even bigger. Then Bute and Ward can come down to 160 right? If they're the same size that is.