Comments Thread For: Merchant: Martinez is Lucky To Get 10% With Mayweather

[Babalu11]

**** Merchant, when he was asking Sergio Questions, before the translator gave the answer he wanted to ask the next question. This is not 1950 Larry anymore, fighters do not only fight on pure heart anymore.

[TBell]

Shut up merchant nobody cares what you think HBO commentators are destroying whatever credibility boxing has left

[ADP02]

Remember we would have great long debates on the history of boxing and how fighter's have never moved up so many weight classes (like Manny did in that 9 month span) and have been the stronger and faster fighter?

Although you acted like you didn't realize what I was talking about back then, now you realize how going up that many weight classes and becoming the stronger/faster fighter, is just not physically possible without some shady business going on.

Sergio jumping from 154 to 168 in 9 months, then smashing Ward/Bute while being the stronger/faster fighter is the equivolent to what Pac did in 08.

Glad you see how shady that looks.

Really, now that I think about it, the comparison isn't even close as manny's weight gain was far greater than what Sergio's would be if he fought at 168. At least Sergio has been fighting at 154 for some time; Manny's weight gain kind of came out of nowhere.

Your post is mind-boggling to say the least.

You have other ongoing threads saying that Manny should be able to go from 140 to 154 with no problem but in this thread you are saying that what Manny has done already to get to where he is at these higher divisions (147-150) is "shady".

Besides the obvious hate in your posts, can you imagine if Manny does take a fight at 154 and beats a Martinez ..... you would not be congratulating him ..... from your present post you would just call it "shady" or some other adjective!

[TheGoldenChamp]

Merchant sounds delusional and sounds like he has beef against Martinez. He expects a guy who weighs 157.5 at weigh in to jump up to 168 when he could get a super fight at 154 w Mayweather. Merchant is an idiot!!!

[TheGoldenChamp]

Based on what?

Ortiz beat a reigning #2WW champion when he fought Berto.

Martinez beat Pavlik after Pavlik got humiliated by BHOP and PWILL after PWILL had gotten exposed by Quintana and had a win over him.

Why do fans say make such exaggerated and extremely unfounded statements?

After last night's performance, I hate to say it but Merchant is right on this one.

Are you seriously implying that this guy is boxing like a P4P#3???????

This is why I hate subjective lists. they open up a can of worms that lead to DUMBSHlT like this.

It allows people who have no reasons to write what they do to nominate ANYONE as the best, and they have no responsibility to back it up.

This isn't a case of having an off night. Martinez looked less than world class in his fight before that as well. The questions and su****ions that were born in the Barker fight were not answered last night.

I don't understand how anyone could call this man P4P when it was truly Macklin's lack of conditioning that lost him the fight and Martinez' superior conditioning that won it for him.

ANYONE can look like they've adjusted and they are "turning it up" once their opponent's are completely gassed.

Some of you seriously don't watch or understand boxing.

Once a fighter is gassed but refuses to quit, what can he do but weather the storm or hope to land a hail mary shot? Macklin wasn't impressive as a boxer, but his approach basically laid a blueprint to how to beat Martinez.

If you fight from behind your jab and pump it .. if you keep your hands up especially after throwing .. if you move to your right after landing and throw a left hook .. Martinez is reduced to pot-shotting and running.

Rewatch the fight. Macklin is taking the fight by storm by any measure. But he's doing enough to score and stay in the fight and even eventually takes the lead. Macklin is a limited fighter, but his approach wasn't meant to display any god given skill. It was meant to nullify Sergio's approach IF AND ONLY IF he kept doing the things that were keeping him in the fight from the beginning.

Matt gave up head movement that was making Sergio miss.

Matt gave up jabbing that made Sergio retreat and opened up opportunities for him Matt to score.

Matt gave began following Sergio around because he got impatient because he knew he didn't have much left.

Matt gave up going for bodyshots at that point in favor or hail mary headshots because he needed to land something big real fast because he was gassing after the 8th.

Nothing Sergio supposedly adapted to forced Macklin to make those mistakes .. and I challenge anyone to discuss what Sergio did to turn the tide aside from simply outlasting Macklin's conditioning.

If Macklin could have conceivably finished the fight strong, he was in a position to get a draw or a win before the 11th round knockdowns. And anyone watching the fight saw that Macklin was simply plodding forward and throwing sloppy shots by that point. He wasn't the same guy as he was from round 3-8.

Sergio Martinez's last two performances were no better than Devon Alexander's performances against Lucas Matthysse and Andriy Kotelnyk.

The real difference being a willingness to honestly critique a performance on the merits and not on how much you like a guy.

Because so many believe that Sergio is better than he is despite him only having two noteworthy wins in 50+ fights, some feel the need to defend him when there is no defense.

I usually HATE the HBO telecast. I'm notoriously one of their biggest haters. But they were calling what happened last night right.

Sergio definitely won, but his performance showed that he was absolutely nothing special. And as Lampley pointed out, someone close to Sergio in his own camp expressed that there is reason to be concerned about Martinez' ability to win fights nowadays.

'Nothing special'? Rotflmfao!!! Floyd or Roger, is that you typing?

[Reloaded]

He's right. Martinez should be calling out fighters like Ward and Bute. If he calls out Chavez, then why not them? Wanting to fight Floyd or Manny is ****ing pathetic. He ain't no small MW - that's BS.

Well thats fine if they willing to go down to 160 like Sergio is to 150-154 , its a 2 way street , he might be calling out the smaller man but he is going as far down as he can possibly go .

[komandante]

Larry Merchant is the most respected commentator and a legend in boxing.

[FXDaKid]

Merchant just doesn't care... He always lays it out there...

[Brother Jay]

'Nothing special'? Rotflmfao!!! Floyd or Roger, is that you typing?

So are you implying that 2 wins in 53 fights against guys who were already exposed makes Martinez "special"?

What is special about Martinez.

Please, tell us all how special he is.